[Vincent M]

...What I do know though is that after seeing two people helped by taking ginger around the period of orgasm I decided to have a ginger tea pre-orgasm and post-orgasm to see what impact it had on my mental state. The effects have been profound. Usually I feel lethargic for days following two orgasms in two days, their is no possible way in which I can feel positive socialising in that period, I fall into a discontent state and berate myself for making the decision to orgasm. However, in the last week, I feel no different following an orgasm, my mental state quickly recovers and I can talk to friends just as I would pre-orgasm...

Looks like the ginger remedy for POIS is becoming more widely effective. Thanks for your report. These are the types of reports that are going to bring us true progress in understanding POIS.

[Vincent M]

I'm writing because I would like to add to the growing list of members who have found significant relief with GINGER.  (fwiw I'm taking it in pill form)
 
Granted, I'd like to put out a qualifier as I only have 3 wks of experience with it and admittedly some products which initially helped me didn't withstand the test of time.  But so far, the lethargy, anxiety, brainfog, etc have all been sharply reduced by simply taking it around the time of the O.  I will provide a follow-up update, whether it be good or bad, when I have more data points.

Thanks to Vincent M (for discovering it), akt1 (for heavily promoting it), & awpirates321 (for providing additional confirmation). 

Thanks for your report. Looking forward to your update on your ginger trial.

I'd like to add that I suspect the most effective way to take ginger is by boiling fresh ginger into a tea. Sometimes I boil fresh ginger then add a pinch of dried ginger powder into the tea as I believe the two forms contain slightly different chemicals.

[Vincent M]

NICOTINAMIDE is the ONLY form of Vitamin B3 effective in treating POIS and is available from Natures Own brand.

Actually this is incorrect.

From what I've seen most POISers have found more benefit from the nicotinic acid form of niacin as the flush itself seems to have a beneficial effect for us.

[akt1]

I'm writing because I would like to add to the growing list of members who have found significant relief with GINGER.  (fwiw I'm taking it in pill form)
 
Granted, I'd like to put out a qualifier as I only have 3 wks of experience with it and admittedly some products which initially helped me didn't withstand the test of time.  But so far, the lethargy, anxiety, brainfog, etc have all been sharply reduced by simply taking it around the time of the O.  I will provide a follow-up update, whether it be good or bad, when I have more data points.

Thanks to Vincent M (for discovering it), akt1 (for heavily promoting it), & awpirates321 (for providing additional confirmation). 

Thanks for your report. Looking forward to your update on your ginger trial.

I'd like to add that I suspect the most effective way to take ginger is by boiling fresh ginger into a tea. Sometimes I boil fresh ginger then add a pinch of dried ginger powder into the tea as I believe the two forms contain slightly different chemicals.

Thats beautiful.
Keep spreading the ginger word.
Keep posting if it works.
Thank you Vincent and others.

Pois-Ginger : 0-10

Regards,
akt1

[B_Daniel]

Update: I've had 5 Os over 3 days with the use of the ginger and astonishingly, I still feel completely fine.  I've always thought that POIS was a deficiency in some mineral, which is exacerbated during the release of fluid upon the O.  I'm forced to completely re-think that theory now that ginger's anti-inflammatory properties seem to completely block all the nasty effects of POIS.   

[markus1986]

I know there are several genie reports here on this topic of POIS. I might as well contribute if anyone is interested I but yet understand what this all really means.
I do know about the histamine (undermethylation) though, when I certain foods like yogurt, my lips looks swollen like I have an allergy but I know for a fact its not allergy but histamine issue. It would go away after a few hours, same thing with water kefir, pro biotics, and banana.

Hello!
Tell me, please, where can I make such a genetic test?
You can name the company or a link to their website.

[B_Jim]

Update: I've had 5 Os over 3 days with the use of the ginger and astonishingly, I still feel completely fine.  I've always thought that POIS was a deficiency in some mineral, which is exacerbated during the release of fluid upon the O.  I'm forced to completely re-think that theory now that ginger's anti-inflammatory properties seem to completely block all the nasty effects of POIS.   

Very nice !  I like when several poisers have the same result !
I add ginger in my food but I didn't really try to use caps as Pois cure.
Thanks !

[akt1]

Update: I've had 5 Os over 3 days with the use of the ginger and astonishingly, I still feel completely fine.  I've always thought that POIS was a deficiency in some mineral, which is exacerbated during the release of fluid upon the O.  I'm forced to completely re-think that theory now that ginger's anti-inflammatory properties seem to completely block all the nasty effects of POIS.   

Very nice !  I like when several have the same result !
I add ginger in my food but I didn't really try to use caps as Pois cure.
Thanks !

Try to take like 4 capsules 30 minutes before an O mate.
You could add some raw ginger/ginger tea as well before an O.

Regards

[crushgrapes]

I know there are several genie reports here on this topic of POIS. I might as well contribute if anyone is interested I but yet understand what this all really means.
I do know about the histamine (undermethylation) though, when I certain foods like yogurt, my lips looks swollen like I have an allergy but I know for a fact its not allergy but histamine issue. It would go away after a few hours, same thing with water kefir, pro biotics, and banana.

Hello!
Tell me, please, where can I make such a genetic test?
You can name the company or a link to their website.

Yes, it called 23andme

[B_Jim]

Hmm, Ginger seems not to be effective for my Pois. I tried 3 times. I took 1g 30 min before and I didn't feel anything.

[B_Daniel]

Sorry to hear it didn't work, and thanks for reporting back.  That is the correct dosage.  I guess as we've found from testosterone replacement and niacin, what works for some doesn't work for all.

[B_Jim]

Thanks, we know that the remedies we have only work for a part of our group and not for the others. I have to go back to what works for me : taurine/dopamine.

This week, I took 500mg of taurine after orgasm and it made a HUGE difference. Amazing.
I was really tired last week after orgasm. Today 24 hours after, I have great day with a good energy level to work.

[Huang Yihua]

Hello everyone, I am surprised this forum is still ongoing after so many years (a decade already!) I am from Singapore and I last chanced upon this forum and heard of POIS last year (I think) by luck when I was researching about my problem. Now, I wish to bond with similar-condition people. Maybe we can create a Facebook group or something. And there is also a need for POIS sufferers of the same country or region to get to know one another and form support groups. My Facebook username is findyihua

[acronym]

Hmm, Ginger seems not to be effective for my Pois. I tried 3 times. I took 1g 30 min before and I didn't feel anything.

Maybe try take it closer to your time of O. I have actually found ginger does help reduce my symptoms though I have been too chicken yet to take it on its own. I take it on conjunction with diphenhydramine hydrochloride tablet which was helping me to reduce pois.  When I first tried ginger I was not that impressed. I then tried some organic ginger from the farmers market and it was then that I noticed the difference. The ginger was hot. I grate it into boiling water to make a tea. I could not tell the weight but its probably a heaped table spoon worth. I have also noticed the closer to the O I take it the better, which was what a lot of guys said about Niacin. I tried taking ginger tea 1/2 hr before I had sex and I was hit with pois worse than previously when I experimented with it 10-5 mins prior. I find when it comes to therapeutic herbal supplements there can be a lot of variation in quality (the % of the active constituents in the herb).

The theory from a few here is that ginger is working because it is anti-inflammatory. If that was the key to its benefit then something like fish oil, krill oil, calamari oil or tumeric would also have noticeable benefit, but I cant recall anyone on here raving about those supplements.

I guess it doesn't matter that ginger is not working for you since Taurine is working really well for you. As long as sufferers here find something that works at least 75% and its not too expensive then its a win. Taurine does not make much difference for me, though in theory its a great supplement. It helped my digestion a little and maybe that was its effect on bile production, but I was hoping for a bigger impact on brain fog.Tyrosine also did not do anything for me and I took that because of it being key input into the production of dopamine. Mucuna Puriens was great but again I had patchy results due to variable quality herb. When I got decent stuff I found I had to cycle it as I developed tolerance really quick (2 days) but that definitely boosted my dopamine levels.

[B_Jim]

Strangely, i never tried L-tyrosine But for the moment, yes, I think the dopamine theory is still the best to explain my Pois.

[Greylorn]

John,
I've not read the preceding posts, so this may be redundant.  If so I apologize for wasting your time. 

Years ago I did considerable experimentation with past-life regression work.  Yes, sounds new agey or downright stupid from most perspectives, but I was able to use information from hypnosis work to effect real cures for peculiar afflictions.  If anyone's afflictions are peculiar, yours are more striking than any I've encountered. 

Were I to guess, in a previous life you were caught in the sack by the wench's husband or other lover, and he put a hard boot in your back, from which you died.  Perhaps repentantly, perhaps angrily, probably slowly and painfully.  If that guess is even remotely close to the mark (a serious session with a competent (hard to find any) practitioner) would help decide the issue. 

Good luck! 
-G.

[akt1]

Thanks, we know that the remedies we have only work for a part of our group and not for the others. I have to go back to what works for me : taurine/dopamine.

This week, I took 500mg of taurine after orgasm and it made a HUGE difference. Amazing.
I was really tired last week after orgasm. Today 24 hours after, I have great day with a good energy level to work.

Thanks for sharing b_Jim.
Taurine is a gaba-agonist i believe?
Everything that acts on gaba might relieve pois?

The big question is how to prevent pois..
ginger sometimes relieves pois for me, sometimes not.
If i get lightheaded and messed up after an O i take vitamin bkomplex to take away that.

But the question is how to prevent pois from happening in the first place.
I believe niacin works for this, but it messes with my blood sugar.

Regards, akt1

[B_Jim]

Yes, this is what I suspect. First, it seems there are different Pois profiles. I should try Quantum pre-pack but it will not work for me.
I'm skinny, nervous and I suffer from severe premature ejaculation. I'm a good candidate to be deficient in Gaba. It's like if Gaba slows down orgasms and reduce dopamine conversion to noradrenaline/adrenaline. Catecholamines are present in semen too ("lost" with ejaculation).

I often read read muscluation or health topics on the internet dispite you can find a lot of good infos and a lot of bad ones. I found this one :
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/83876-decrease-noradrenaline-if-you-got-issues-decrease-noradrenaline/
Especially Mr. Psychillogical  answers :

Symptoms related to high noradrenaline:
 
*ED
*Excessive wind
*Insomnia
*Anxiety
*Inflammation
 
 
Symptoms related to low dopamine:
*Difficulty concentrating
*weak orgasms
*low libido
*lack of motivation in life
 
What can show in your blood tests:
*Slightly low testosterone for your age
*Slightly elevated cortisol levels

It typically describes Day 0 (high nora) and Day 1~3 (low dopa) Pois cycles.

And his "cure" : zinc, taurine, vitamine D, phosphatidylserine (and a med).
Zinc is present in semen too.

[akt1]

Yes, this is what I suspect. First, it seems there are different Pois profiles. I should try Quantum pre-pack but it will not work for me.
I'm skinny, nervous and I suffer from severe premature ejaculation. I'm a good candidate to be deficient in Gaba. It's like if Gaba slows down orgasms and reduce dopamine conversion to noradrenaline/adrenaline. Catecholamines are present in semen too ("lost" with ejaculation).

I often read read muscluation or health topics on the internet dispite you can find a lot of good infos and a lot of bad ones. I found this one :
http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/83876-decrease-noradrenaline-if-you-got-issues-decrease-noradrenaline/
Especially Mr. Psychillogical  answers :

Symptoms related to high noradrenaline:
 
*ED
*Excessive wind
*Insomnia
*Anxiety
*Inflammation
 
 
Symptoms related to low dopamine:
*Difficulty concentrating
*weak orgasms
*low libido
*lack of motivation in life
 
What can show in your blood tests:
*Slightly low testosterone for your age
*Slightly elevated cortisol levels

It typically describes Day 0 (high nora) and Day 1~3 (low dopa) Pois cycles.

And his "cure" : zinc, taurine, vitamine D, phosphatidylserine (and a med).
Zinc is present in semen too.

Thanks mate.

O releases some kind of adrenaline burst in me.
I get insomnia, jittery and get bad social anxiety, especially from eye contact.
Im having a hard time socializing in pois state since i act like a junkie almost.

I also get back pain and dry nose, eyes..

From that perspective, it makes sense that niacin works ( since its supposed to counteract adrenaline(?) )
and gaba (since it calms the body down..)
Niacin/niacinamide also acts on gaba i think.

Taurine feels a bit like niacinamide.

I will try taurine.

Regards,¨
Akt1

[akt1]

How do you take taurine b_jim?

It relieves some of the pois-state after an O i believe...
The jitteryness calms down..

But do you take it before an O?

Niacin for example, seems to take out the "pois-initiation".
So that pois does not occur at all.

Can Taurine take out pois, or does it calm the symptoms?

We need something that lasts a couple of hours, and that takes out the initial phase of pois.
So that it does not start at all.
Ginger has worked for me, but its sketchy, sometimes it does not work.
Not to keen on niacin because of blood sugar, insulin problems.
Maybe niacinamide and/or taurine can fix it.

Thanks guys.

Akt1