[B_Jim]

I take 500mg 30 min before.  It seems more effective against  "pois-initiation" as you said.
On the contrary, if I take sugar hours before it increases pois symptoms.

[akt1]

I take 500mg 30 min before.  It seems more effective against  "pois-initiation" as you said.
On the contrary, if I take sugar hours before it increases pois symptoms.

Thanks man, bad pois here today, even though i took ginger pre-o.
Gets worst second day after O - depression and very bad mood.
Was on my way out on some pretty sketchy adventures so i had to preventatively O-bailout at home for safety 

Have you tried GABA?
If pois can be managed by gaba-agonists, why not just take pure gaba?

Will try taurine next time.

Regards,
akt1

[B_Daniel]

Ginger has worked for me many times... but one time so far it did not.  It's important to be transparent about the good and the bad.

[B_Jim]

I take 500mg 30 min before.  It seems more effective against  "pois-initiation" as you said.
On the contrary, if I take sugar hours before it increases pois symptoms.

Thanks man, bad pois here today, even though i took ginger pre-o.
Gets worst second day after O - depression and very bad mood.
Was on my way out on some pretty sketchy adventures so i had to preventatively O-bailout at home for safety 

Have you tried GABA?
If pois can be managed by gaba-agonists, why not just take pure gaba?

Will try taurine next time.

Regards,
akt1

I don't know if there is a real "gaba" supplement. I believe Gaba can pass the brain/blood system and maybe even not the stomach.
Gaba supplements are often othe substances supposed to help with Gaba synthesis.
In fact, Taurine is a little miracle for this. If you take benzodiazepine you will have a dependence, not taurine.
The first times I took 500mg every day I even had an effect on my premature ejaculation but I never prove it. Maybe placebo.

[akt1]

I take 500mg 30 min before.  It seems more effective against  "pois-initiation" as you said.
On the contrary, if I take sugar hours before it increases pois symptoms.

Thanks man, bad pois here today, even though i took ginger pre-o.
Gets worst second day after O - depression and very bad mood.
Was on my way out on some pretty sketchy adventures so i had to preventatively O-bailout at home for safety 

Have you tried GABA?
If pois can be managed by gaba-agonists, why not just take pure gaba?

Will try taurine next time.

Regards,
akt1

I don't know if there is a real "gaba" supplement. I believe Gaba can pass the brain/blood system and maybe even not the stomach.
Gaba supplements are often othe substances supposed to help with Gaba synthesis.
In fact, Taurine is a little miracle for this. If you take benzodiazepine you will have a dependence, not taurine.
The first times I took 500mg every day I even had an effect on my premature ejaculation but I never prove it. Maybe placebo.

I buy now foods 500mg gaba at Iherb.
If i take it on an empty stomach i get a calming effect every time.
I know it is being discussed everywhere though if it works or not, and it seems to be individual.
For me though, the effect is physiological and very noticable.

I need gaba every now and then. It has a similar effect as niacin on me.
A bit more "pure" though.

Maybe pois is an inflammation, and that inflammation stresses the body, making it release excessive amounts of adrenaline and cortisol.

Thats why antiinflammatory stuff and gaba-ergic stuff might work..

And Taurine I believe, is both antiinflammatory and a gaba-agonist.
I guess the same goes for niacin.

So, sorry for being autistic , but to prevent pois:
1. Antiinflammatory - to prevent release of excessive adrenaline
2. Gaba-agonists - to calm the nervous system down from eventual release of excessive adrenaline

Thats what i think for now.

Best regards,
akt1

[akt1]

Taurine worked, but i got somewhat "pois-jittery" after O.
That all changed when i took pure gaba...

Im very curious if pure gaba alone might relieve pois.

Taurine makes me more confident(?), gives some libido and some relaxation. A bit insonia also i believe though.
But a nice supplement.

If anyone has tried pure gaba before and after pois, please let me/us know.

Have a nice day,
Akt1

[B_Jim]

As I said I'm a bit sceptical about pure Gaba supplement. Anyway, links between Gaba and blood sugar are very inetresting. Science made progress since last time I look for some links.

[akt1]

Ginger has worked for me many times... but one time so far it did not.  It's important to be transparent about the good and the bad.

Ginger is also not 100% reliable in my case.
This is a tricky condition.
Maybe its GingerTEA that makes all the difference..

Taurine made a big difference though, so thanks B_Jim.

Im going to go all in next time:

Taurine
GingerTEA
5htp
Gaba
and
bcomplex, magnesium, vitamin d, omega3, multivitamin - ( i take all of these daily anyway).

...Perhaps all of these are just treating the symptoms,
and the real problem is some kind of inflammation.

I do not know.
The sad thing is that i change as a person after O, my charisma and social ability goes down.
I put people away from me.
But some say thats why you in general should conserve sexual energy.
I do not know how to adres that if being in a relationship though.

But i believe the protocol above might do a difference.
Taken before, and after if needed.


Regards,
akt1

[B_Daniel]

I'm skinny, nervous and I suffer from severe premature ejaculation. I'm a good candidate to be deficient in Gaba.

I fit your same profile above.  I've taken pure gaba for many many months.  Didn't do a thing.  I upgraded to Picamilon, which is a mixture of gaba and niacin.  The niacin allows the gaba to cross the blood-brain barrier.  This supplement definitely has an effect on me as it makes me more calm.  However it also didn't help my POIS.

[B_Jim]

When something has a calm down effect, it has an effect against my Pois too. The effect of magnesium is low, the effect of taurine is strong. My brain lethargy symptome is 90-95% cured with taurine and it changed my life.
Taurine is a Gaba receptor agonist according a lot of scientific studies. But it may play a role with NMDA glutamate receptor too.
Youcefrouiba told about a neurotransmietter called orexin which is linked to sleep/awakness states. I found it interesting and I'm working on it.

[miner2049er]

After suffering from this for over 24 years, I just realized something last week. Thanks to Weird Al on this one, believe it, or not. So, here are my symptoms with POIS:

1. Painful / Sore lungs, kind of like muscle soreness.
2. Irritably/rage/snappiness at the slightest things, e.g., where something should work, like opening a milk container, where if it doesn't open, I'll get enraged and smash it open after 2 tries rather than take a reasonable approach of using a knife to separate the adhesive to open the spout, and if that doesn't work (after smashing, I'll throw it out in anger) This doesn't happen on the same day of orgasm -- day 0, rather the next day, day 1, and gets better on subsequent days. And this isn't all the time, but some of the time with this level of extreme irritability; but it's normally triggered to that extent if I have an orgasm each day for 3 days in a row -- regardless of self generated or with a spouse.
3. Lack of drive.
4. Lack of mental sharpness.
5. Depressive thoughts.
6. More sensitive to aches/pains and feeling muscle soreness (esp. after weightlifting, if I could even muster the energy to exercise after orgasm -- usually I don't for 3-7 days after)

OK, so what does Weird Al have to do with my solution? Word Crimes. He mentions "You dumb mouth breather" And then I realized something, I eat more than I should, esp. after an orgasm, because my lungs hurt so bad and that reliefs the pain. Then I asked why? Well, I'm not mouth breathing while eating. So I tried with conscious effort to not mouth breath (which I tend to do) and it really helped. I've tested 3 orgasms, 3 days in a row, and I don't have the irritability or any of the symptoms I've listed above, and while my lungs still feel a little sore, it's not to the degree that it used to be, and I don't need to eat to relieve the pain in my lungs.

Anyways, it's only been a week and so far so good, and  I'm looking forward to testing this more without the fear of the day 1 reset after each orgasm (normally, it would take 3-4 weeks to get back to feeling normal (when I was 17~22, it would take only 3 days ,) but there's still stress since nocturnal emissions would wipe out all the effort in abstaining.)

I hope this tip could help someone too.

[B_Jim]

Welcome !

[taked]

I posted cliff notes at the bottom. Disclaimer: I'm a student studying computer science and have no formal education in medicine.
I didn’t start experiencing PIOS until I tore my body apart in high school with stress, intense physical exertion and caffeine at age 18 (now age 20). I’ve been to tons of doctors, all of whom have said I am healthy. Every standard blood and urine test (plus a kidney ultrasound and brain mri), no matter how many times I do them, come back normal. Since I was masturbating almost everyday I didn’t consider the problem to be ejaculation until almost a year later when I tried NOFAP. I diagnosed myself pretty quickly as having candida yeast overgrowth in my gut, and leaky gut syndrome. Stool tests done by a homeopathic doctor recently confirmed this. Many doctors have told me these conditions don’t exist, but trust the internet and your instinct. Apparently yeast overgrowth is caused by a poor functioning immune system and is not common in men. Why was my immune system not functioning properly?
I tried everything including eliminating sugar, gluten, meat, only eating carbs, very high fiber diet, nootropics, megadose probiotics, betaine hcl, enzyme supplements but nothing was a long term solution.

A study on POIS I found on the National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) website essentially says a doctor found 88% of a small sample of men with POIS had an immunological reaction to their own semen, showing it is probably autoimmune. It definitely has the symptoms of an autoimmune disease.
From my understanding, people who develop autoimmune diseases first have a change in gut bacteria (in my case yeast), then develop leaky gut syndrome. After this goes on for a while, the immune system becomes so disoriented by the foreign particles permeating the gut wall it attacks the body. The repeated attacks create an autoimmune disease. All autoimmune diseases essentially have the same root cause but have different manifestations (depending on where they attack in the body). About 15 years ago a Brazilian doctor named Cicero Coimbra realized mega doses of Vitamin D caused permanent remission in people who suffered from any autoimmune disease, including Multiple Sclerosis, Psoriasis, arthritis, lupus, ect. He trained doctors across the world and has successfully treated, with 95% effectiveness, thousands of patients.
You can google "High Dose Vitamin D Protocol" to see how he treats his patients. I HIGHLY recommend you don’t jump in without doing serious research and having a doctor help you with the tests. At the same time its important to take action and it takes at least 6 months for the treatment to work. Unlike ginger, testosterone therapy, NSAIDS, bennadryl, ect. Vitamin D deficiency is the root cause and fixing it with high doses is likely the only long term solution if this is an autoimmune disease.

This book The Miraculous Results Of Extremely High Doses Of The Sunshine Hormone Vitamin D3 was probably the most important I read. The author pretty much says Vitamin D deficiency is similar to human hibernation and autoimmune diseases are your body trying to protect you from winter and force you to sleep. Sex, stress, and eating sugary foods/fruit are summer activities.
As for quick fixes, the only thing I really found that helped me immediately post orgasm was 100mg of Zinc Gluconate.

My current daily supplement stack is:
30k iu Vitamin D
1k mg Ionic Magnesium
600 mcg Vitamin K2 mk-7 and some mk-4
multivitamin
Vitamin B2
Krill Oil
Candida Support
100mg Zinc Gluconate

Since beginning this several months ago, I have seen major improvements in my energy level, skin rashes, bowel strength, brain fog, recovery time from orgasm, hair quality, I can drink coffee again without running to the toilet immediately after, and feel like I’m getting back to normal *knock on wood*(no pun intended).

Book sources I think everyone struggling with health issues should read, listed in order of importance:
The Miraculous Results Of Extremely High Doses Of The Sunshine Hormone Vitamin D3 My Experiment With Huge Doses Of D3 From 25,000 To 50,000 To 100,000 Iu A Day Over A 1 Year Period
Recaging The Beast - The Disease Behind Disease: The Yeast-Fungal Connection
Multiple Sclerosis and (lots of) Vitamin D: My Eight-Year Treatment with The Coimbra Protocol for Autoimmune Diseases
The Autoimmune Fix

CLIFF NOTES:
POIS is probably an autoimmune disease
Autoimmune diseases are caused by Vitamin D intolerance and permanently treated and put in remission with high dose Vitamin D
Get a doctor to help you with a high dose Vitamin D protocol and fix this problem for good
Let me and others know if Vitamin D has helped you and really is the problem
100mg Zinc gluconate daily helped me with POIS recovery

[B_Jim]

What you wrote make sense. I'm convinced something has a latency in my Pois because my Pois came gradually. The auto-immune or "allergic-like" argument is not easy to understand.

[akt1]

I posted cliff notes at the bottom. Disclaimer: I'm a student studying computer science and have no formal education in medicine.
I didn’t start experiencing PIOS until I tore my body apart in high school with stress, intense physical exertion and caffeine at age 18 (now age 20). I’ve been to tons of doctors, all of whom have said I am healthy. Every standard blood and urine test (plus a kidney ultrasound and brain mri), no matter how many times I do them, come back normal. Since I was masturbating almost everyday I didn’t consider the problem to be ejaculation until almost a year later when I tried NOFAP. I diagnosed myself pretty quickly as having candida yeast overgrowth in my gut, and leaky gut syndrome. Stool tests done by a homeopathic doctor recently confirmed this. Many doctors have told me these conditions don’t exist, but trust the internet and your instinct. Apparently yeast overgrowth is caused by a poor functioning immune system and is not common in men. Why was my immune system not functioning properly?
I tried everything including eliminating sugar, gluten, meat, only eating carbs, very high fiber diet, nootropics, megadose probiotics, betaine hcl, enzyme supplements but nothing was a long term solution.

A study on POIS I found on the National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) website essentially says a doctor found 88% of a small sample of men with POIS had an immunological reaction to their own semen, showing it is probably autoimmune. It definitely has the symptoms of an autoimmune disease.
From my understanding, people who develop autoimmune diseases first have a change in gut bacteria (in my case yeast), then develop leaky gut syndrome. After this goes on for a while, the immune system becomes so disoriented by the foreign particles permeating the gut wall it attacks the body. The repeated attacks create an autoimmune disease. All autoimmune diseases essentially have the same root cause but have different manifestations (depending on where they attack in the body). About 15 years ago a Brazilian doctor named Cicero Coimbra realized mega doses of Vitamin D caused permanent remission in people who suffered from any autoimmune disease, including Multiple Sclerosis, Psoriasis, arthritis, lupus, ect. He trained doctors across the world and has successfully treated, with 95% effectiveness, thousands of patients.
You can google "High Dose Vitamin D Protocol" to see how he treats his patients. I HIGHLY recommend you don’t jump in without doing serious research and having a doctor help you with the tests. At the same time its important to take action and it takes at least 6 months for the treatment to work. Unlike ginger, testosterone therapy, NSAIDS, bennadryl, ect. Vitamin D deficiency is the root cause and fixing it with high doses is likely the only long term solution if this is an autoimmune disease.

This book The Miraculous Results Of Extremely High Doses Of The Sunshine Hormone Vitamin D3 was probably the most important I read. The author pretty much says Vitamin D deficiency is similar to human hibernation and autoimmune diseases are your body trying to protect you from winter and force you to sleep. Sex, stress, and eating sugary foods/fruit are summer activities.
As for quick fixes, the only thing I really found that helped me immediately post orgasm was 100mg of Zinc Gluconate.

My current daily supplement stack is:
30k iu Vitamin D
1k mg Ionic Magnesium
600 mcg Vitamin K2 mk-7 and some mk-4
multivitamin
Vitamin B2
Krill Oil
Candida Support
100mg Zinc Gluconate

Since beginning this several months ago, I have seen major improvements in my energy level, skin rashes, bowel strength, brain fog, recovery time from orgasm, hair quality, I can drink coffee again without running to the toilet immediately after, and feel like I’m getting back to normal *knock on wood*(no pun intended).

Book sources I think everyone struggling with health issues should read, listed in order of importance:
The Miraculous Results Of Extremely High Doses Of The Sunshine Hormone Vitamin D3 My Experiment With Huge Doses Of D3 From 25,000 To 50,000 To 100,000 Iu A Day Over A 1 Year Period
Recaging The Beast - The Disease Behind Disease: The Yeast-Fungal Connection
Multiple Sclerosis and (lots of) Vitamin D: My Eight-Year Treatment with The Coimbra Protocol for Autoimmune Diseases
The Autoimmune Fix

CLIFF NOTES:
POIS is probably an autoimmune disease
Autoimmune diseases are caused by Vitamin D intolerance and permanently treated and put in remission with high dose Vitamin D
Get a doctor to help you with a high dose Vitamin D protocol and fix this problem for good
Let me and others know if Vitamin D has helped you and really is the problem
100mg Zinc gluconate daily helped me with POIS recovery

Thanks mate.
I also got pois - i believe - after my body and nervous system broke down from intense stress from education, career etc and maybe too much partying (which was fun though).

I also believe that many remedies for pois only mask symptoms of something else - maybe an autoimmune disease..

Sorry for repeating, but have your pois symptoms improved from supplementing with vitamin d - could you isolate that factor?
Are high doses of vitamin d safe to take ? (will read up on it)
I can add that ive been taking about 2000 iu of vitamin d daily for the last couple of years- with no pois-improvement, but I have not megadosed on it.

Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Akt1

[Steve-22]

Hi,

I was part of this group with a nick Desperate man, or something similar, but for some reason my account was removed (inactivation maybe?). I would like to share something important:

Prior to joing and being an active member, I wasn't diabetic. However I was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes (autoimmune) over 2 years ago, and when I started treating it my POIS went into remission. But it's not that simple. If my sugar is too high or too low, then of course I will feel like sh1t either way.....but the key is to be as stable as possible.

When I eat e.g. a store bought yogurt with added sugar, then I will most likely experience POIS if I decide to indulge in self-pleasuring afterwards. This is because added sugar (bad for diabetics) which will put me on a glucose roller coaster ride. This wild swing was the main cause of my ongoing POIS problems.

When I eat a proper meal (e.g. chicken and rice) and dial in my insulin shot for the carbs, then I won't feel POIS at all. Completely non-existent. So I'd like to ask everyone to go out and buy a simple glucose monitor. No excuses. I want people to take this very seriously. You will quickly forget about the struggles of POIS when you're dealing with autoimmune diabetes. It's an evil, nasty disease with no off days, requiring 24/7 attention for the rest of your life. No cure...

The time interval between first experiencing POIS and the onset of diabetes was 6 years. Wish I could go back and stay on the anti-inflammatory diets, be proactive about my health, and stress less. If only I knew........

But now you know. So please don't belittle your symptoms and get yourself a glucose monitor, and if the numbers indicate a problem, then stay calm and go to your doctor for evaluation. Spend a whole day checking your levels, especially when you feel like crap! Do everything you can for your health and well-being, and never take your body and health for granted, but be mindful about the balance between your health and sanity. Healthy diet, plenty of exercise, obeying your biological clock (was a night owl for 2 years before my diagnosis), get enough sunshine (I failed), don't beat yourself over things that cannot be changed (stressed myself to death due to a failing marriage prior to diagnosis). Please take my advice because I never thought that my POIS symptoms could one day become so miniscule after so much suffering, and yet they did, and I would do anything, I would kill to go back to dealing with POIS only (rather than this f***ing annoying, stupid disease).

Buy that glucose monitor. Don' wait another day! Better safe than sorry. I wish you good luck!

[taked]

Steve - I really appreciate the advice Steve and will consider my blood sugar. When I am tested at the doctors it is usually slightly low. I have been told that it shouldn’t be a concern of mine, but Ill start to explore the possibility that something could possibly be wrong. The fact that you had POIS and have/developed an autoimmune disease makes me think that POIS really is autoimmune or a precursor to autoimmune diseases. “25% of people with an autoimmune disease end up having several” - prevention.com
With regards to eating an anti-inflammatory diet and being constantly vigilant about health, I believe that it should be all of our goals to entirely not worry about our health and stress levels. There are CEOs working 100 hour weeks with horrible diets and we need to fix the differentiating factors between us and them. We should be able to eat some candy or have sex without doing permanent damage to our bodies. The Brazilian Neurologist Cicero Coimbra has claimed his method works for all autoimmune diseases, including diabetes. I highly recommend you research him.

akt1 - I can isolate Vitamin D as being the single factor and cause of my, and I believe all cases of, POIS. 2k IU per day is not enough to get out of the deficient range in some people, so I don’t think it helped you much at all. The other supplements I take are “cofactors” to Vitamin D meaning, they are needed to support the Vitamin D in its processes. Taking high doses of Vitamin D can cause other deficiencies, so the other vitamins must be taken. At first I didn’t feel much from the Vitamin D, but like I previously posted my bowels are almost entirely back to normal after having diarrhea daily for 2 years, I can intensely exercise daily without feeling like Im destroying my body, my mind is much clearer, vision is better. After ejaculating my body would literally feel drained. My bones would hurt, moving would hurt, I would become depressed for the rest of the day and have mood swings, my head would feel like it was stuffed with cotton or on fire, my tongue would turn white and any sugar I ate would cause diarrhea. Now I can orgasm and feel almost normal like in high school, little tiredness, slight lack of mental clarity that lasts only a few hours. I get better everyday and every time. I can orgasm everyday if I want as opposed to once a week and never fully recovering.

I’m going to outline my interpretation and experimental results taking higher doses of Vitamin D and its application to POIS. Some of this is repetitive but it’s more detailed. I will say this protocol is very safe if you have a supporting doctor to get the proper tests done. It is otherwise not safe to take more than 30k IU Vitamin D per day since it can cause kidney stones. I am not an authority on this protocol and anything I say should be checked with a doctor and used with his/her consent.
Vitamin D regulates immune function and does so more in certain individuals (probably people with darker skin but could be anyone). When chronically low in Vitamin D, the lack of regulated immune function causes dysbiosis in the gut that creates inflammation throughout the body. Ejaculation seems to trigger this reaction causing POIS symptoms. Foreign particles from the gut make their way to the blood stream and cause the body to attack itself. My basic understanding is that Vitamin D is a hormone that binds to cells in the body, including immune cells, and sets off a unique gene sequence (telling the body it’s summer). It then properly “reprograms” those cells and immune cells. This reprogramming can take some time which is why it will be at least 3 months to see a noticeable change. People who develop POIS and autoimmune diseases have an “intolerance” to Vitamin D, such that the normal levels are not enough to regulate their immune systems. The only way to make them function properly is to give high doses ranging from 20k-150k IU per day. The dose is determined through experimentation by testing Parathyroid Hormone. These levels are inversely related to Vitamin D levels in the body. Increasing amounts of Vitamin D are taken until Parathyroid Hormone levels are at the lowest end of the normal test range. This means the Vitamin D is working at its highest possible efficacy. Extremely high levels of Vitamin D cause any calcium ingested through the diet to immediately enter the blood stream, so it must be controlled by eliminating nuts and all dairy except butter. Vitamin D “toxicity” is actually too much calcium in the blood not Vitamin D. High levels of calcium can cause kidney stones. Vitamin D also requires Magnesium and Vitamin B2 to convert to its hormone form, so these must be taken regularly. Vitamin K2 is preventive against hypercalemia, so it should be taken also.

The goal is to reprogram the body to not create an immune response when we ejaculate. Here's a start everyone can probably take and begin to get better.

Starter Vitamin D Protocol:
20k-30k IU Vitamin D in morning with meal (amount can be changed)
Magnesium 2x/day (I recommend Magnesium L threonate and ionic magnesium. Between 400mg and 1g total)
Vitamin B2 2x/day
Vitamin K2 at night with meal (I recommend Super K one pill for every 10k IU Vitamin D)
Multivitamin (This should be Thorne Research Basic Nutrients one taken in the morning and one at night. This multivitamin has the proper nutrients for this specific protocol)
Krill Oil (semi-optional)
2.5+ liters of water daily to prevent kidney stone formation
Diet excluding dairy and nuts
Shoot for under 10% rdv calcium per day
30 minutes of exercise daily (to prevent bone loss)

You might need much higher amounts of Vitamin D which is why you should get your doctor on board. There are specific "Protocol Doctors" you can find too, although not many. If you start to get headaches taking really high doses of Vitamin D, you have a magnesium deficiency and need to take more Magnesium. Ionic Magnesium doesn’t cause bowel issues. Also take Krill Oil for headaches. I have taken doses of up to 200k IU in day and been fine so Vitamin D is very safe. See my other post for further reading and references.

Dead Ends
Traditional Chinese medicine - They look at medicine through feeling which is beneficial someways. Qi Gong, breathing exercises, and acupuncture were mostly useless and not sustainable. Some of this might have merit but not enough to fix our problems.
Meditation and believing it was in my head - No matter how much other people tell you and you wish it was true the condition is real and need to be treated as such.
Ketogenic Diet - I wasn’t able to sustain this and didn’t feel good while doing it.

[akt1]

The vitamin d deficiency might then correlate with the fact that many people feel less pois in the summer, or when being in sunny environments.

And the blood sugar issue might correlate with niacin and taurine both affecting blood sugar, from what i know of.

Regards,
Akt1

[taked]

Do any of you guys have Visual Snow as a symptom? It's kind of like seeing static and spots in your visual field. I especially notice it when I look at a single color or things far away like the sky. It also comes and goes, so sometimes I don't notice it at all. I'm wondering if its an issue with the eyes or brain.

Bubbly urine is another odd symptom I have and can point it to anything since my kidney and liver function have tested normal. Does anyone else have this?

Akt1 - I saw that you take GABA and thought I'd mention the author of the book "Why Isn't My Brain Working" said GABA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. The book said to use it as a test since you will only feel a relaxing effect from it if your blood brain barrier is compromised. If you do feel an effect try taking krill oil. Also, it looks like you've been on this forum for a year or so. Are you still 100% free of POIS from ginger and your supplements?

[mrsmith2211]

My view is it is a psychosomatic response. I would guess because of your upbringing, you are experiecing the symptoms. Do you have guilt feelings associated with an orgasm? just to let you know, it is not a sin or moral defect to feel pleasure during an orgasm.