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Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #20200 on: 30/10/2022 02:18:05 »
Quote from: akt1 on 01/11/2018 07:09:30
Hi,

If methylation might be related to pois - could it then all be related to mthfr-mutation?

The mthfr gene..
Can mehylfolate and methylcobalamin work?

Quote from: coal on 09/01/2019 04:21:45
Hey guys. Just want to post my story to add more to the database. (I wrote the first part of this post in November I believe)

I have been dealing with POIS since I was 17 years old, getting worse every year, and now I am 23. I have tried many medications with limited success.

Symptoms
-Brain fog
-Anxiety, social anxiety
-Fatigue
-Eyes hurt
-Loss of motivation, mild depression
-Pain
-Loss of appetite

I have a history of moderate drug use. First was marijuana when I was 15-18 years old on and off. I had my first panic attack from it and got anxiety for the first time in my life which got better but never went away to how it was before.

I used adderal on and off as well, sometimes using high doses very occasionally. I have since not used any alcohol or drugs in 4+ years besides marijuana which I also quit 6 months ago after using for a short period again. In this period it seemed marijuana used before orgasm would help the POIS.

I have done a lot of blood tests, as well as a mineral hair analysis. I will post them all below.

I have two sets of thyroid labs. The first - 3 months ago, the second - a few weeks ago after taking 75 mcg T4 for a month. Iron, ferritin and ceruloplasmin about 10 months ago. I'll check it all again in a month or two. I take zinc picolinate 45 mg, sodium-copper-chlorophyllin 12 mg, 100 mcg tocotrienols, lithium orotate 5 mg, vitamin K2 mk7 100 mcg.

Ceruloplasmin 20 (18-36 mg / dL)
Ferritin 46 (20-345ng / mL)
Iron 80 (50-195mcg / dL)
TSH 13.94 (0.40-4.50mIu / L)
Free T4 0.8 (0.77-1.50ng / dL)

TSH 1.652 (0.360- 5.490microInter.Units / mL)
Free T4 1.12 (0.77-1.50ng / dL)

SODIUM 139 135-146 mmol / L
POTASSIUM 4.4 3.5-5.3 mmol / L
CALCIUM 9.7 8.6-10.3 mg / dL
CHLORIDE 103 98-110 mmol / L
Magnesium 2.1 (1.5-2.5mg / dL)

Vitamin B12 845 (211-911pg / mL)
Folate 6 (0.9-15.6ng / mL)
Vitamin D 35 (30-100ng / mL)

Testosterone 542 (300-1080ng / dL )
Zinc 85 (60-120mcg / dL)
Copper 67 (70-140mcg / dL)
WBC 3.8 (4.5-11.0x10'3 / microL)
RBC 5.52 (4.20-6.10x10'3 / microL)
HGB 16.4 (11.6-17.6g / dL)
Platelet 143 (125-400x10'3 / microL)
MPV 12.6 (9.3-12.0fL)
Glucose 93 (65-99mg / dL)

These tests from 5 months ago
Estrone 31 (
Prolactin 11 (2-18ng / mL)
Estradiol 20 <OR = 39pg / mL)
Progesterone 0.5 (<1.4ng / mL)
Ferritin 46 (20-345ng / mL)
Iron 80 (50-195mcg / dL)
TIBC 330 (250-425mcg / dL)
% Saturation 24 (15-80%)
Selenium 112 (63-160 mcg / L)
RBC Magnesium 5.6 (4.0-6.4 mg / dL)

Ca / Mg ratio- 9.16, NA / K- 1.73, Zn / Cu 20.9, Ca / K 25.82, Na / Mg 0.61, Fe / Cu 0.52.

Hypothyroidism, low cortisol, low testosterone (fixed, taking zinc picolinate 45 mg per month. Low zinc levels (fixed with zinc) Low copper levels, low ceruloplasmin, very high levels of arsenic on HTMA, iron levels are quite good.

A few things to note. I have a very strong libido, even when my testosterone was very low. I also have a very difficult time refraining from porn. POIS worse from porn + masturbation vs. sex. It seems that I have a dopamine problem, because I am always craving things like junk food, sugar, porn, etc. When I watch porn even without orgasm, my body starts to shiver and I get cold and shaky. Which would lead me to think an adrenal problem.

I have not eaten corn gluten corn or soy for 4 years, as a result of which my antibodies to Hashimoto reached normal levels.

I refrained from porn / masturbation for 4 months of this year, in which I felt much better, but not 100%. I was still having sex during that time.

I am going to do more blood tests in about a month and later on a mineral hair analysis.

Update as of December-
I got a blood test again and here are the results. Aldosterone was EXTREMELY low. And the reverse t3 is high. Based on these results, I'm going to reduce sodium intake and raise potassium, and also take licorice root to raise aldosterone. Also try DHEA. This is after taking 75 mcg T4 and 15 mcg T3 during the month. Also chlorophyll for copper (6-8 mg per day). I will work up to 25mcg to T3. I'm going to stop the t4 for a bit and use only t3 lower reverse t3, and then try to add in a small dose of t4 again.

Aldosterone <1 ng / dL
of ACTH 18 (6-50pg / mL)
of Cortisol 10.9 (4.0-22.0mcg / dL)
the Free t3 4.3 (2.3-4.2pg / mL)
the Free t4 1.4 (0.8-1.8 ng / dL)
Reverse t3 22 (8-25ng / dL)
Ferritin 127 (20-345ng / mL)
Prolactin 7.9 (2-18ng / mL)
Testosterone 500 (250-827ng / dL)
TSH 0.05 (0.4-4.5mIU / L)
Estradiol 16 (<OR = 39pg / mL)
Vitamin D, 25-OH 53 (30-100ng / mL)
Vitamin D, 1.25 (OH) 2 36 (18-72pg / mL)

My theory for why I have POIS is a mix of the following:
-Adrenal fatigue
-Hypothyroidism
-Low dopamine and serotonin (Low serotonin= high sex drive) from drug use

Hopefully this post helps someone else with similar issues. I will keep updating

The low aldosterone points to adrenal issues. Did you have Renin testing done too?    Be aware that potassium blood testing is almost useless.  If you have a high sodium diet, you might consider boosting your potassium with dried apricots and dried prunes, etc.    I've found luteolin and black seed oil to be very helpful.  I have low acetylcholinesterase, so choline sucks for me.  I have to take chlorpheniramine or other H1 first gen antihistamines to get by.   My pepsin levels are super high pre-orgasm which leads me to believe that there is a gut component to this.  I take famotidine as well. Lots of other stuff too, but there are definitely options.  Be aware that high pepsin levels get get into the eyes, so contrary what others have said here, supplementing with Pepsin and stomach acid may for some, exacerbate the problem. Definitely in my case.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #20201 on: 11/02/2025 17:11:53 »
just a test
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #20202 on: 11/02/2025 17:26:06 »
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We now - - finally - - have the green light for the 2025 POIS Research Study to begin piloting!

The first pilot will be soon - then full recruitment starts!

https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3006.0



Dr. Tierney K. Lorenz
Principal Investigator
POIS Research Study



Dr. Nicole Prause
co-Investigator
POIS Research Study

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Dr. Nicole Prause, co-investigator of our upcoming
POIS Research Study got a chance to talk a little POIS in this podcast!
https://youtu.be/ImsB_q-5IIM?feature=shared&t=2100




Please watch the above video to get a better idea of what?s coming soon with our upcoming
POIS Research Study!


Demo
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #20203 on: 11/02/2025 17:39:02 »

VERY EXCITING 2025 POIS
SCIENTIFIC STUDY NEWS!


Hey demografx

My name's Eric and I've been a member of the forum for a while now.  I only learned about the UNL[&UCLA]/[NORD] study recently and decided to investigate.  After learning of a few deficiencies as a result of limited funding (they weren't going to look into delayed onset symptoms and other autoimmune/inflammatory biomarkers) I decided to get in contact with them to see how much funding they would require to expand their study to cover the things I thought were important.

I asked them to give me numbers for how much they would need for the basic additions I requested along with any other ones they could think of for their "dream" study.  They came back to me with some ideas which I thought were good.

I and my family's foundation have decided to fully fund the "dream" study!  Before I gave them the go ahead, I had asked Quantum if he knew any medical researchers in the forum I could contact.  That's why I'd gotten in touch with him prior.  Thanks again Quantum! 

I also reached out to an autoimmune researcher friend of mine for suggested expansions to the study and she gave me a few that Tierney [Dr Lorenz] and Nicole [Dr Prause] hadn't thought of so those might be added too.

The study will be tracking more inflammatory biomarkers, including delayed onset people, adding research assistants, larger sample size, etc.  I've been asked not to share their hypotheses or the study proposal so I can't share those details.  Suffice it to say, the study should be more comprehensive than before and hopefully allow for some real progress.

I'm personally deeply motivated to increase visibility and research for POIS (since it's taken away a lot of joy from my life).  This study seems like a great start.

Thanks for all your hard work organizing this study!  The funding is almost the easy part, I think what you did was incredible.  Hope you keep up your good work!

Thanks,
Eric

Thank you, Eric!
Best wishes!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #20204 on: 11/02/2025 21:25:38 »
While not making little of those with afflictions I am utterly baffled as to how such a subject could generate > 1000 pages, I thought only futility could do that.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #20205 on: 15/02/2025 01:50:41 »

interviews our POIS scientific
study co-Investigator
Dr. Nicole Prause about POIS!



Dr. Nicole Prause
POIS co-Investigator


https://youtu.be/cEqe5dHuQYE?feature=shared&t=5464

YouTube description
Dr. Nicole Prause, a leading neuroscientist specializing in sexual physiology and addiction, joins Dr. Rena Malik to dissect the brain's role in arousal and orgasm. They explore how pornography impacts the brain differently than partner stimulation and masturbation, while debunking myths around dopamine levels. The discussion covers innovative findings on edging, semen retention, and the controversial landscape of sex tech, including teledildonics and sex robots. Dr. Prause also bravely shares her experiences as a female researcher facing challenges and threats in this often turbulent field. Tune in for a deep dive into the complexities of sexual arousal, addiction, and groundbreaking developments in sexual technology.

Thanks for watching!
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« Reply #20206 on: 19/05/2025 19:41:50 »


We now - - finally - - have the green light for the 2025 POIS Scientific Study to begin piloting!
https://tinyurl.com/5pjvsubj
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