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Does ''light'' give us night vision and allow us to see in the ''dark''?
Quote from: TheBoxDoes ''light'' give us night vision and allow us to see in the ''dark''?Yes.A bit of ''light'' give us night vision and allow us to see in the ''dark''.A lot of ''light'' give us day vision and allow us to see in the ''light''.Too much ''light'' gives us sunburn and (in extreme cases) will blind us so we never see again.
You say a bit of ''light'' gives us night vision
then say a lot of ''light'' gives us day vision
Should it not be that a lot of ''light'' gives us perfect ''night vision''?How can we be sure that day vision is just not perfect night vision?
And what do you mean by ''light''?
we do not see ''light'' in ''empty'' space
How do we know that when we increase the intensity of ''light'' on a thing such as a dimmer switch, that we are not just intensifying our ''night'' vision?
the ''light'' we don't see in space makes space ''gin-clear''
Does anyone disagree with that ''light'' allows us to see in the dark?
[Note that you arn't using opaque in the sense used by most users of English, you clearly have your own definition which doesn't help communication.
opaqueə(ʊ)ˈpeɪk/Submitadjective1.not able to be seen through; not transparent.
I should have added another boundary condition:No ''light'' give us no vision (we are blind).
I would disagree and say that all the space surrounding the laser dot was still ''opaque'', however between our eyes and laser dot the space was ''transparent'' and not opaque.
When I turn out the ''light'' it is dark, relative to me ''dark'' is not ''transparent'' to my sight. ''light'' is needed to make ''dark'' ''transparent''.
I say that all the space surrounding the laser dot was still ''opaque'', however between our eyes and laser dot the space was ''transparent'' and not opaque.
So the question is how do you know you are blind in the dark when the dot suggests there just has to be something to see
It would be quite difficult to ''judge'' the distance the dot was away from you.
Quote from: Thebox on 08/06/2016 17:40:52I would disagree and say that all the space surrounding the laser dot was still ''opaque'', however between our eyes and laser dot the space was ''transparent'' and not opaque. Before we go any further, we need to understand your meaning of opaque. From our dictionary opaque means light will not pass through that area. However, if someone stands to your right or left they will also see the dot so the space cannot be opaque - even by whatever definition you use - because between their eyes and the dot is transparent.
However, if someone stands to your right or left they will also see the dot so the space cannot be opaque - even by whatever definition you use - because between their eyes and the dot is transparent.
My definition variation is - sight will not pass through that area, i.e a rainbow obstructs the vision and is ''opaque'' to sight. Sight will not pass through darkness, the darkness is relatively ''opaque''.
Which shows that we can see in the dark and are not blind there just needs to be light interacting with something that allows us to see that something?
Yes the darkness is transparent and allows light to pass through, even without light the darkness is still transparent , however without light/matter interaction the darkness is ''opaque'', add a little bit of light i.e a dimmer switch, the darkness becomes ''translucent''?
opaque is the closest word I can think of that closely describes what I refer to as ''opaque'
i.e a rainbow obstructs the vision and is ''opaque'' to sight.
This is due to you defining opaque differently to everyone else.We do not consider that sight passes through anything, sight does not move through space, we believe it is light which moves.
In physics, "light" mean electromagnetic waves with wavelengths between 400 and 700 nm, or particles of light (photons).
We do see light passing through empty space, because we see stars, the Sun and the Moon through empty space
My definition variation is - sight will not pass through that area....I do not mean in a sense that there is any travelling involved of/from the eyes.
I must correct you though in that wavelengths between 400-700nm is visible light
wavelengths between 400-700nm is visible light observed as spectral content like the colours of a rainbow
I do not observe visible light between me and the star, I observe invisible light do you disagree with this observation?
So I disagree with your assertion - I see that both visible and invisible light pass freely through empty space (although I need a computer to translate the invisible wavelengths into a wavelength range that my eyes can see).
I have no idea where the rainbow came from - it seems to have come out of thin air. Is it something to do with color vision??But a rainbow does not obstruct light and it is not opaque - it is made of water droplets (transparent) in the air (transparent).
do you or do you not see visible light of 400-700nm passing through space?
would ''you'' then say we was part blind if the dimmer switch was turned down to half of the power giving half the luminosity?
Colour is the only vision we have
Do you see the rainbow is different to the space that surrounds the rainbow?
Yes, I see it.
Since you seem to enjoy pseudo-mathematical malarky, I'll try to represent dark and light, transparent & opaque in pseudo-mathematical terms for you.
Lets assume we have a source of light (eg a laser pointer, a torch or the Sun), which can either be ON (1) or OFF (0).
The amount of light L illuminating the scene can be represented as follows:a) Dark + Dark = Dark; L=0+0=0 (ie dark)b) Dark + Light = Light; L=0+1=1 (ie light)c) Light + Dark = Light; L=1+0=1d) Light + Light = Light; L=1+1=2 (ie very light*)
*This ignores the theoretical possibility of local light cancellation by anti-phase light.
They both give the same answer: They both suggest that the area outside a laser spot is dark.
.....describe your observation of ''empty'' space which you claim to see ''light'' that is in the range of 400nm-700nm.
You see the dot through the dark? which is ''opaque''and ''transparent'' ,
Quite clearly the wavelength's of 400nm-700nm are not observed in ''empty space'' unless we see a rainbow.
Do you still claim to see the wavelength of 400nm-700nm passing through space?
Dark + Dark?
Yes it is dark but the dark is also transparent at the same ''time''. You see the dot through the dark? which is ''opaque''and ''transparent''