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Moments after the big bang the singularity was the largest thing that existed?
« on: 14/06/2016 16:52:35 »
Observation contrary to logic!

Moments after the big bang the tiny almost infinitely small singularity "was the largest thing that existed?"

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Re: Moments after the big bang the singularity was the largest thing that existed?
« Reply #1 on: 14/06/2016 22:08:31 »
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Moments after the big bang the tiny almost infinitely small singularity "was the largest thing that existed?"

Three questions spring to mind;
1. How do you define "singularity"?
2. If there was a "singularity", when did it stop being one, and how?
3. How could anyone be sure it was "the largest thing that existed"?
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Re: Moments after the big bang the singularity was the largest thing that existed?
« Reply #2 on: 14/06/2016 22:18:34 »
Quote from: Bill S on 14/06/2016 22:08:31
Quote from: Alan Mc
Moments after the big bang the tiny almost infinitely small singularity "was the largest thing that existed?"

Three questions spring to mind;
1. How do you define "singularity"?
2. If there was a "singularity", when did it stop being one, and how?
3. How could anyone be sure it was "the largest thing that existed"?


1) An infinite absolute
2) Ask Alan Guth (Read inflation)
3) Because it was the only thing
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Re: Moments after the big bang the singularity was the largest thing that existed?
« Reply #3 on: 15/06/2016 22:06:52 »
Moments after the big bang it was no longer a singularity, no?

But aside from that, is this even a legitimate question?  In a sense, it's more simply a statement of fascination correct?  As if you're merely fascinated that had been the reality.  But the question itself kinda just reads "back at the point where the only thing that existed was a singularity, it was also by default then the largest thing that existed.  Isn't that like cool and stuff?".  I dunno, that's kinda the impression I'm getting; a statement of fascination rather than an actual question.  Is that in fact all it is?
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Re: Moments after the big bang the singularity was the largest thing that existed?
« Reply #4 on: 16/06/2016 21:09:07 »
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1) An infinite absolute

To me, that sounds more like religion than science; compare it to this, from Dr C Baird.

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In the real universe, no black holes contain singularities. In general, singularities are the non-physical mathematical result of a flawed physical theory. When scientists talk about black hole singularities, they are talking about the errors that appear in our current theories and not about objects that actually exist. When scientists and non-scientists talk about singularities as if they really exist, they are simply displaying their ignorance.

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2) Ask Alan Guth (Read inflation)

I was looking for your answer.  BTW, do you think the Universe is infinite?

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3) Because it was the only thing

How could you know that?
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