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Is everything subjectively relative to an observer and nothing objectively real?
How would you know if something was "objectively real"?
Quote from: Bill S on 17/06/2016 03:58:09How would you know if something was "objectively real"?Because it would not be subjective.It is a strange and puzzling fact that in our house everyone avoids trying to walk through the walls, even blind people. I assume the wall may have some form of objective reality.
Blind people might not know about the wall and believe that it did not exist and from their subjective point of view believe that no such wall was "objectively blocking their path" and walk right into it.
I believe that an object/subject divide actually exists. If I am to be an internally consistent, then I have to realize that everything is objective, and subjectivity is just a useful term to describe what is private to an individuals experience.
Subjective experiences are actually objective experiences, but restrained to the privacy of an one individual.
The objective/subjective divide lies precisely in the fact that what is objective is certainty true, and that what is subjective is not certainly true.
There is ultimate objective reality, however an individual may not know it.
There is much more to this argument than one at first glance might imagine and we only have a dim view of the totality of reality and our perception of it is very limited at best.
Objective Reality – a reality that completely exists independent of any conscious entity to observe it.Subjective Reality – what we perceive.
As it is well known, subjective reality is “subject” to an elaborate set of filters, any one of which can modify a perception of that reality; sensory apparatus (e.g. the rods and cones in our eyes), sensory processing (e.g. the visual cortex), higher level brain function, and psychological factors (e.g. expectations). As such, what one person experiences is always different than what any other person experiences, but usually in subtle ways.
Fundamentally, one cannot prove the existence of an objective reality. We can only infer its properties through observations, which of course, are subjective. However, it may be possible to prove that objective reality doesn’t exist, if, for example, it can be shown that the properties inferred via a particular observer fundamentally contradict properties inferred via another observer.
But even then those inferences may be hopelessly subjective.
Then is it possible to prove anything? (Comment by Alan)
It is a strange and puzzling fact that in our house everyone avoids trying to walk through the walls, even blind people. I assume the wall may have some form of objective reality.
leads only to silly solipsism, so I'll not ask it.