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Quote from: jeffreyH on 30/06/2016 11:17:51You are absolutely correct. Since the sun would be traveling at the same speed as the photons it would appear to an observer (at a safe distance. ie another universe ) that the sun had moved instantaneously from its initial position to its final position next to the earth.Not true unless the observer was in the line of travel of the sun. From a position at 90 degrees to that line, the sun would be seen to move.
You are absolutely correct. Since the sun would be traveling at the same speed as the photons it would appear to an observer (at a safe distance. ie another universe ) that the sun had moved instantaneously from its initial position to its final position next to the earth.
Ok, moving on a bit lets look at something else which is in direct relationship to the already scenario. A short sighted person needs a lens attached to be able to perceive distance and ''magnify'' the light, how can a lens change the information of a Photon before it enters your eyes to give a better perspective on distance for a short sighted person?
With respect ,I remain baffled as to why that you keep insisting that a person can see light before it reaches the eye, in desperation, please try to explain your reasoning to me and all the other confused members on the forum in a precise and logical way that our limited intellects could comprehend?Thank YouAlan
I would be curious how an infinite speed of light can be consistent with the observations of the moons of Jupiter from <1674 that established the finite speed of light.http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/RomersMeasurementOfTheSpeedOfLight/Of course, I know that the people who propose these theories don't really want to do physics.
I just think sight is instantaneous.
Quote from: Thebox on 01/07/2016 22:42:29I just think sight is instantaneous.What could that possibly mean?
With respect ,I remain baffled as to why that you keep insisting that a person can see light before it reaches the eye, in desperation, please try to explain your reasoning to me and all the other confused members on the forum in a precise and logical way that our limited intellects could comprehend?
Quote from: PhysBang on 01/07/2016 23:13:06Quote from: Thebox on 01/07/2016 22:42:29I just think sight is instantaneous.What could that possibly mean?ambiguous, what do you mean?
Photons occur when the wave encounters particles of the right energy levels.
Quote from: Thebox on 01/07/2016 23:17:03Quote from: PhysBang on 01/07/2016 23:13:06Quote from: Thebox on 01/07/2016 22:42:29I just think sight is instantaneous.What could that possibly mean?ambiguous, what do you mean?I mean, what do you mean by, "I just think sight is instantaneous." It seems like another statement that could not possibly be true.
Place the rod over your shoulder so that just a small section of the rod ''sticks out'' that you can see in your line of sight, You must agree that you and the rod are in the same time zone and the rate of time is the same for you and the rod?
Now imagine your rod can extend to any distance, I want you to slide the rod forward so you now see a bigger section of the rod in your line of sight. Do you agree that the tip of the rod and the rod nearest your ear, is in the same time zone still?
Well I am pretty sure you will agree, now imagine extending this rod all the way to the sun, I am now sure you will see the problem with present thinking.