[alancalverd]

Except that you cannot describe a receiver as a source, pertinently or otherwise, the answer is yes. 

Poster:
"I've got a new cyclic model of the universe, can someone help me with the maths?'

Physicist:
"never mind the maths, what are your underpinning assumptions and testable predictions?"

[timey (OP)]

Just to be absolutely sure that you have answered the question Alan...

Do the maths of the Pound Rebka, in relation to the Mossbauer effect, take into account that the emitting source is blue shifted at top of tower relative to the frequency the same source would be emitting at when located at bottom of tower?

Because I'm pretty sure (but I could be wrong) that Relativity does 'not' predict that atoms have higher energy, or emit higher energy photons at elevation, relative to the energy they have, or the photons they emit in a lower gravity potential.
I'm pretty sure that Relativity does predict that an observation of light arriving from an elevated frame of reference will be blue shifted from the perspective of an observer in the lower frame.  This being because the observer can only observe light when it arrives in his own frame of reference...  But nowhere did I read that an atom would have a blue shifted frequency at elevation relative to that which it would have in a lower frame of reference.

(I've told you my theory and its predictions.  You said show me the physics)

[alancalverd]

You are almost absolutely correct. To be pedantic, the photon is blue shifted "from", not "at" the top of the tower.

The stuff you say you never read, is nonsense, which is why you never read it.

[timey (OP)]

You are almost absolutely correct. To be pedantic, the photon is blue shifted "from", not "at" the top of the tower.

The stuff you say you never read, is nonsense, which is why you never read it.

But the clock IS blue shifted 'at' elevation... (this has been the whole point of the thread)

Why does physics think that the gamma ray source will 'not' be blue shifted at top of tower?

(It may be that Relativity didn't predict that atoms are blue shifted in elevation, but it is most certainly not nonsense that they are because it is proven by the NIST experiment...  And if a cesium atom is blue shifted at elevation, a gamma ray source will be as well.)

[Colin2B]

If two persons have contradictory opinions about something, one of them will think like the other need to study some more to understant the phenomenon. Obviously, the other will think the same way.

But the clock IS blue shifted 'at' elevation... (this has been the whole point of the thread)

Not from our point of view. We were trying to convince you that it isn't blue shifted 'at elevation'.

Why does physics think that the gamma ray source will 'not' be blue shifted at top of tower?

Sorry, I'm not going to fall into the trap of trying to explain again. You asked me not to and it seems to irritate you when I do.

(It may be that Relativity didn't predict that atoms are blue shifted in elevation, but it is most certainly not nonsense that they are because it is proven by the NIST experiment...  And if a cesium atom is blue shifted at elevation, a gamma ray source will be as well.)

NIST did not prove this. The Al ion was not blue shifted in its frame at elevation.

[Ethos_]

You are almost absolutely correct. To be pedantic, the photon is blue shifted "from", not "at" the top of the tower.

While some may view this point as "pedant"or trivial, the designation of "from", not "at" is the very problem one of us has regarding their view about the accuracy of relativity.

The stuff you say you never read, is nonsense, which is why you never read it.

And is also the reason they resist considering the difference between "from" and "at" when forming their rationalizations about that accuracy.

As usual, Alan is direct, correct, and efficient with his answers.

[alancalverd]

For the umpteenth time, all the clocks and gamma sources that have been used to test GR and SR have given exactly the same result, yet they all generate their signals by different mechanisms, none of which is determined by the local gravitational potential.

Relativistic effects are exactly that: effects due to the relative gravitational potential and/or speed of source and receiver.

[yor_on]

Damn timey
You made us run, didn't you

The truth is simple.

you're the one measuring

[yor_on]

Now, what you need to prove is that those measurements doesn't fit.
Can you?