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Alas, you have got it all back to front. Gravitational redshift is a function of the gravitational potential difference between source and receiver, nothing else. More specifically, unless gravitational travels faster than c (and we have no reason to suspect it does) the shift depends on gsource, then - greceiver, now.
If you can think of any better way to express this terminology-wise I'd be grateful.I, myself cannot think in terms of a static gravity field,
Unfortunately I am adding the complication of the 'voids' and multiple body masses. Yes it is true that the expanding model 'ignores' these complications, b/c the expansion renders the gravity of clusters to be local and isolated from other clusters by 'expanding' voids of 0 or near 0 g.
But a smaller body mass will not have objects gravitating towards it at c.
No - my model states the current relationship between the time dilation of a clock and GP/g does hold.Clocks will obey GR in all but the factor of the greater mass, where b/c clocks run slower nearer to mass, GR states that time runs slower on the bigger mass.
An almost uniform sea of particles and energy contracting under the influence of its own gravitational anomalies will start clumping/contracting very slowly indeed, and will proceed at an accelerating rate.
Every astronomical observation is calculated under the contruct you put forward, but does not serve as experimental evidence that there is no relevant gravity in a void.
Unless I completely missed something and the Pound Rebka experiment was conducted in a 'void' between galaxy clusters, this also does not serve as experemental evidence that there is no relevant gravity present in a void.
Have they installed GPS in the void?
Have deep space probes probed the voids?
If there is gravity in a void, of which there is no experimental evidence that there isn't, then it will cause gravitational shifts.
In a universe that is slowly contracting under the influence of gravity, the gravity of the voids will be highly relevant with regards to gravitational shift.
Quote from: timey on 05/03/2018 12:26:35No - my model states the current relationship between the time dilation of a clock and GP/g does hold.Clocks will obey GR in all but the factor of the greater mass, where b/c clocks run slower nearer to mass, GR states that time runs slower on the bigger mass.As I’ve said near the beginning, this will need some significant explanation because the 2 statements appear to contradict each other. You cannot keep the current relationship and have clocks not follow that relationship nr a density anomaly.Quote from: timey on 05/03/2018 12:26:35An almost uniform sea of particles and energy contracting under the influence of its own gravitational anomalies will start clumping/contracting very slowly indeed, and will proceed at an accelerating rate.As I’ve said before, if your assertion is that light enters an area of uniform sea of particles, becomes shifted and then leaves a void area which does not affect it’s shift, then you will have to provide some scenarios and details. But it seems to me that the clumping has to occur at a significant rate so that the changes can occur while the light is passing through the clumping zone. Gravitational shifts are very small compared to doppler, so a scenario is important to prove the magnitude required.You will also need to explain how your idea overcomes 2 objections you will meet as your paper is read.1. If light enters a dense area that is expanding it will be subject to the same g forces as it enters, passes through and leaves that zone as the particles that are clumping, so it is still going to have the same uphill/downdale effect. How does your void idea actually work in practice?2. Which sources you are observing. If we take starlight then the star must have already formed during clumping, and certainly if we can see it then the light hasn’t passed through a sea of particles or that would show up in absorption spectra.As I’ve said, i had assumed the whole idea would be explained by the inverse time dilation rather than voids.