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What part does the Higgs field play in gravity?
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What part does the Higgs field play in gravity?
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What part does the Higgs field play in gravity?
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The field itself is considered stationary with respect to all particles. Regardless of motion. It is the vev (vacuum expectation value) that is important. The molasses analogy is wrong and misleading. So the Higgs field should have no part to play in the increase in relativistic mass due to motion.
It all depends upon what we determine to be the value of active gravitational mass and if this is donated by the Higgs field.
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The analogy i read was that a celebrity walks into a crowded room along side an average person. The crowd throngs towards the celebrity(who happens to have a higgs boson or such particle in his pocket) and there fore has a great mass about him that stop his progression. The average person passes by at speed unhindered as he is bosonless!
It seems that it has to do with mass at rest , and to have rest mass you need to posess whichever particle is the flavour of the month, aexactly like the exibitionism of celebrity ! They both thave mass , but to stop motion they need the higgs boson.
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That is the whole point, the Higgs field doesn't act to slow particles down. Inertia and the Higgs mechanism are not the same thing. The question centres around active gravitational mass. I doubt I will get an answer to that one. At least not a sensible one.
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