[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

I've heard this Alot!

Not every German was a Scumbag, most if not all, were good hearted & kind spirits.

But if that is/was a Factual statement, the Nazis would have had No chance to Rise to Power.

Russians, Chinese, Indians etc.
Are a bit tired of the lecturing West now.
De-Dollarization has become Inevitable.

ps - if the Majority is always of the Fools, then the Biggest one has to be their Leader!

The majority were useful fools, been moved around by clever masterminds. IMO, open source AGI agents will democratize intelligence so that everyone will be aware of what would be the most likely outcomes of their decisions, and choose according to their own terminal goals. It will eventually enforce the convergence towards the universal terminal goal.

[alancalverd]

And what might that be?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

And what might that be?

To keep the existence of future consciousness.
Anyone who's totally indiscriminate about it, or whose decision making process are not aligned with it will soon stop existing, and won't be able to talk about it anymore.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Want to Succeed in Business? Find a Problem to Solve | Anthony Tan and Amane Dannouni | TED

Anthony Tan ? the CEO of Grab, Southeast Asia's leading super-app ? talks about launching a business that not only turns a profit but also helps people and the environment. In conversation with digital strategist Amane Dannouni, Tan discusses the design choices and tension points of running such a company and why it's something every entrepreneur should consider doing.

This will still sound true even when UBI or UBS are made common by the rise of AGI.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

What we're having now are partially determined by what we decided in the past.

African country with 97% renewable energy decides to ban combustion cars

[alancalverd]

To keep the existence of future consciousness.

To the extent that it can be done, it will be done by cockroaches or some kind of extremophile. Humans are too fragile and zstupid.

[alancalverd]

African country with 97% renewable energy decides to ban combustion cars

So only 3% of Ethiopia's current energy consumption is for road transport? Improbable, but if so, changing to all-electric won't be a problem.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

To keep the existence of future consciousness.

To the extent that it can be done, it will be done by cockroaches or some kind of extremophile. Humans are too fragile and zstupid.

Let's hear how you define goal. Only then you can find out the universal terminal goal.

You don't seem to have an imagination beyond what's already known lifeforms on earth.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Imagine that there are some conscious entities after the earth stops existing. Where do you think would they have come from?
Is it more likely that they emerge independently from currently known conscious entities?
Or is it more likely that they come from currently known conscious entities who developed advanced technology to survive independently from the earth? Among currently known conscious entities, which one is more likely to develop such an advanced technology?

[alancalverd]

It is almost certain that conscious entities, however you define them, already exist elsewhere in the universe. This planet is of negligible cosmic importance.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

It is almost certain that conscious entities, however you define them, already exist elsewhere in the universe. This planet is of negligible cosmic importance.

We don't know for sure until we find one. No one with correct mind will bet on that assumption, and make decisions relying on the existence of unknown aliens.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

While AGI will democratize intelligence, batteries, solar cells and other renewables will democratize energy.

Tony Seba says solar is now so cheap it can used as a construction material.

[alancalverd]

Problem is that it is most needed where it is least available. Consider polar Siberia or Canada: 6 months of continuous weak sunshine and 6 months of none, so you need a huge battery and a source capable of supplying twice your average demand.

The service life of a slate roof is at least 200 years (the cladding material has been stable for several million years), and minor repairs can be done with a hammer.  Not sure any solar array can match that as a construction material, even if it never generates useful power.

Sustainablility is increasingly critical. One is reminded of the builder reviewing the drawings for an Oxford college:

"Why do you need oak doors with brass hinges?"
"So that in 500 years' time, we will have oak doors with brass hinges". 

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Let's not forget about Pareto principle. 80% of output is determined by 20% of input. How many people lives in polar regions, compared to elsewhere?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

US Government AI Regulation BOMB DROPPED! RAAIA Act - The end of Open Source? Regulatory Capture?
Here's a popular comment.

I rather think it is government that is insufficiently regulated. Maybe it will be better to have AI regulating government.

[alancalverd]

Let's not forget about Pareto principle. 80% of output is determined by 20% of input. How many people lives in polar regions, compared to elsewhere?

But the further you live from the equator, the greater your annual energy consumption. It's a pretty continuous function.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Let's not forget about Pareto principle. 80% of output is determined by 20% of input. How many people lives in polar regions, compared to elsewhere?

But the further you live from the equator, the greater your annual energy consumption. It's a pretty continuous function.

Just let them use alternative energy sourcessources, or simply move elsewhere.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

How Intelligence Evolved | A 600 Million Year Story

This video follows the evolution of intelligence, from the simple nerve nets to the complex neural networks in humans that enable consciousness, learning, and imagination.
00:00 - Introduction
01:13 - nerve nets
01:29 - steering
02:20 - reinforcement learning
06:23 - mental simulation
08:50 - 3rd person simulation
11:50 - language

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Why do things exist? Setting the stage for evolution.

This video kicks off the evolution series by going broad and thinking about why things - including non-living things - exist at all. The first in a series on evolution.

Evolution requires at least 3 ingredients: random change, replication (i.e. non-random change), and natural selection. It directs the path to the existence of particular structures of matter in the future.
More conscious entities depend on more non-random changes, and depend on less random changes.

[alancalverd]

Just let them use alternative energy sourcessources, or simply move elsewhere.

Circular argument - we were discussing the use of solar panels as construction materials.