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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1880 on: 09/05/2025 16:16:59 »
?AI Is Coming for ALL Your Jobs? ? Tech CEO?s Internal Memo Leaked
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I can totally see it. In my day job (15yr software engineer) claude code currently does 80-90% of my coding tasks with me just guiding it through the process, reviewing the code that it wants to generate, stopping it when it generates the wrong thing (the current key needs for an experienced software engineer) and having the conversation to give it more context as to the desired course of action, areas that can be refactored, different scenarios to consider and/or guard against etc. I set it up to do red/green TDD. I'm doing the work that used to take me 8 hours now in 2 to 3 hour mostly if we're talking pure coding. It's freed up my time and lowered my stress level. It is indeed a force multiplier in the hands of an experienced developer.

I still think that it's at the point that it needed experienced developer oversight though. There've been moments where I couldn't imagine being a junior/mid level dev and not recognizing when the code being generated is not optimal or is not taking into account certain use cases or scenarios that you failed to explain thoroughly enough.

The funny thing is on my team, I'm the only one using a code generation tool. I would talk about this AI wave months and months ago and while they were more aware than mainstream people, they couldn't grasp the importance and magnitude of what was happening. Most of them had played around with ChatGPT at most and to date now they've bought into using Github CoPilot inside VS Code, but while you get code hints, it doesn't have complete codebase awareness and the ability to build out a feature across multiple files while following existing project wide coding standards.

The team lead has been slow to adopt new stuff so it's understandable. He would gently fight with me to use VS Code because he doesn't understand NeoVim and thinks it's just a featureless plain text editor and that I should "Move up to an IDE "  without realizing that my NeoVim setup did everything that VS Code does plus a whole lot more 😂. When they made the decision to start using CoPilot he said to me "You know you're going to have to switch over to VS Code so that you can start using CoPilot right?" not knowing that I had been added in copilot to my setup 9-10 months ago and had moved on to more advanced agentic plugins lol.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1881 on: 16/05/2025 14:25:35 »
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Around 2 billion years ago, life had plateaued in complexity, ruined the atmosphere, and was on the verge of self-annihilation. But then something strange and potentially extremely lucky happened that enabled endless new evolutionary paths. The first eukaryote cell was born. This may also explain why there are no aliens.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1882 on: 16/05/2025 17:24:22 »
What we consider to be an advanced civilisation with the capacity to communicate beyond its host planet, has only existed for about 100 years and is unlikely to survive much longer. If we take that as the mean expected window for communication between civilisations which occur at random over 13.5 billion years and the entire sphere of the observable universe, the probability that we happen to be looking in the right direction at any moment is negligible, and the probability of establishing two-way communication is (negligible)2.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1883 on: 17/05/2025 06:25:41 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 16/05/2025 17:24:22
What we consider to be an advanced civilisation with the capacity to communicate beyond its host planet, has only existed for about 100 years and is unlikely to survive much longer. If we take that as the mean expected window for communication between civilisations which occur at random over 13.5 billion years and the entire sphere of the observable universe, the probability that we happen to be looking in the right direction at any moment is negligible, and the probability of establishing two-way communication is (negligible)2.
When do you think is the best time for all civilizations of human descendants to go extinct? Is it next decade, next century, millennium, million years? Why is it?
What should we do about it?
Is there any physical law preventing us from building an interplanetary ir interstellar civilization?
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1884 on: 17/05/2025 08:19:47 »
I don't think we would recognise our descendants as civilised within 1000 years. Ours is the only species that venerates superstition and allows the least suitable to tell the rest of us what to do. Science, medicine, rational thought, agriculture and trade blossomed in the 18th century and thereafter, but all these fine achievements of the human race are now in decline. The species probably won't become completely extinct for another million years, but it has obviously passed its peak of potential for doing anything amazing or interesting. Under the pressures of climate change and overpopulation we will descend into the sort of savagery that many people thought had  been eradicated by the 1950s, and arbitrary tribes will spend more time fighting than collaborating.   

Apart from the obvious limits posed by newtonian mechanics, I think there is an ethical imperative not  to pollute the rest of the universe with the stench and stupidity of homo "sapiens".
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1885 on: 17/05/2025 13:19:43 »
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I don't think we would recognise our descendants as civilised within 1000 years. Ours is the only species that venerates superstition and allows the least suitable to tell the rest of us what to do. Science, medicine, rational thought, agriculture and trade blossomed in the 18th century and thereafter, but all these fine achievements of the human race are now in decline. The species probably won't become completely extinct for another million years, but it has obviously passed its peak of potential for doing anything amazing or interesting. Under the pressures of climate change and overpopulation we will descend into the sort of savagery that many people thought had  been eradicated by the 1950s, and arbitrary tribes will spend more time fighting than collaborating.   

Apart from the obvious limits posed by newtonian mechanics, I think there is an ethical imperative not  to pollute the rest of the universe with the stench and stupidity of homo "sapiens".
So, do you think the sooner we get to extinction is better? Do you have a plan to achieve that?
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1886 on: 17/05/2025 14:39:53 »
I'm in no hurry. Life in the UK right now is a bit more comfortable than it was in the 1950s, but without the optimism.  I'm just glad I won't be around in 100 or 200 years' time. 

Our impact on the universe is negligible but I don't see why we should give future Putains, Trumpfs, Popes, Akhundzadas or Khameneis the opportunity to spread misery to other planets.
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« Reply #1887 on: 17/05/2025 23:01:08 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 17/05/2025 14:39:53
I'm in no hurry. Life in the UK right now is a bit more comfortable than it was in the 1950s, but without the optimism.  I'm just glad I won't be around in 100 or 200 years' time. 

Our impact on the universe is negligible but I don't see why we should give future Putains, Trumpfs, Popes, Akhundzadas or Khameneis the opportunity to spread misery to other planets.
Your posts here indicate that you have following assumptions.
-  human civilization is inherently bad and can't be improved.
- outer space is better off without it.
- human civilization won't go to extinction for at least another century.
- you won't survive by then.
- you don' have the capacity to change them significantly.
- you are unwilling to increase your capacity adequately to make the change, either for better or worse.

With that set of assumptions, it's not surprising that you couldn't find the universal terminal goal.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1888 on: 18/05/2025 07:57:06 »
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Human DNA editing is finally here.

There is a microscopic technology that now gives us the power to edit our own genes while we?re alive. To cure certain diseases, possibly prevent others, or boost what our bodies can do? or maybe, one day give our kids abilities no one has ever had before? effectively putting evolution into our hands.

This is not some sci-fi future! We?re already using this technology in real medical treatments in plants to grow new crops and in animals to create new species!

Just yesterday, news broke that a baby?s life was saved using personalized gene editing that fixed one tiny error in its DNA. This is truly ?huge if true.?

Deciding how we use this new superpower may be the biggest challenge we have ever faced - and the biggest opportunity to reduce human suffering.

This tool is called CRISPR. Dr. Jennifer Doudna won the Nobel Prize for discovering it.

So, in this third episode of Huge Conversations, Dr. Doudna and I use specific examples to help you see how gene editing directly affects your life right now - and help you decide for yourself: How should we use it? When is it wrong - and when is it wrong NOT to?

If you want to know what the most important people building the future are imagining it will look like, Huge Conversations is the show for you.

This interview was recorded on March 20th, 2025.

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0:00​ Human DNA editing is here
1:20​ What?s the goal here?
2:56​ What is CRISPR?
4:34​ How does gene editing work?
6:18​ How should humans edit our genes?
7:22​ You v. your kids
9:37​ The first CRISPR gene therapy
12:37​ What can CRISPR cure?
13:48​ Challenges with delivery
16:34​ Curing Huntington?s
18:34​ The first CRISPR-edited babies
22:27​ When should we use CRISPR?
26:03​ Can I edit my DNA to prevent disease?
29:18​ Can I enhance myself?
31:11​ When shouldn?t we use CRISPR?
34:14​ When don?t you need DNA edits?
36:32​ Superpowers??
38:17​ How should we edit plants and animals?
42:57​ The funniest CRISPR gene edit is really useful
45:37​ Editing our own microbiome
48:28​ The bigger picture
50:16​ What Dr. Doudna is excited about now

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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1889 on: 18/05/2025 08:12:30 »
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about the new unusual way gold is generated inside particle accelerators like CERN

0:00 Cosmological alchemy - generation gold from lead
1:20​ Ancient alchemy and chrysopoeia
3:00​ Nucleosynthesis in 1981 - bismuth to gold
4:40​ New method - lead to gold inside CERN
7:15​ Production of a lot of elements
7:45​ How much gold was produced?
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With some improvements, we will overcome the scarcity of mineral resources. Mining for precious metals will no longer be imperative.
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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1890 on: 18/05/2025 11:46:08 »
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Your posts here indicate that you have following assumptions.
-  human civilization is inherently bad and can't be improved.
No. An apple is inherently good and can be improved, but usually contains organisms that survive by making it rot.
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- outer space is better off without it.
unless you want to disseminate a species that produces toxic and  unrecyclable rubbish and kills not only other species, but its own kind too. Except when its own kind want to die and
 are too weak to kill themselves, when the aforementioned parasites pass laws making it illegal to help. Let's keep this absurd animal on one planet, for the benefit of all the others.
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- human civilization won't go to extinction for at least another century.
Recognisable fragments of a collaborative society will survive for a long time, but the political map of the world will change beyond recognition or relevance.
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- you won't survive by then.
A safe bet - I'm 80 years old.
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- you don' have the capacity to change them significantly.
A scientist tries to leave a legacy of reason and logic, but it gets diluted by religion and politics.
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- you are unwilling to increase your capacity adequately to make the change, either for better or worse.
Wrong. I haven't given up trying. My last words will be "oh, bugger."
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« Reply #1891 on: 19/05/2025 08:00:23 »
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- you are unwilling to increase your capacity adequately to make the change, either for better or worse.
Wrong. I haven't given up trying. My last words will be "oh, bugger."
What are you trying to achieve?
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« Reply #1892 on: 19/05/2025 08:08:30 »
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Your posts here indicate that you have following assumptions.
-  human civilization is inherently bad and can't be improved.
No. An apple is inherently good and can be improved, but usually contains organisms that survive by making it rot.
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- outer space is better off without it.
unless you want to disseminate a species that produces toxic and  unrecyclable rubbish and kills not only other species, but its own kind too. Except when its own kind want to die and
 are too weak to kill themselves, when the aforementioned parasites pass laws making it illegal to help. Let's keep this absurd animal on one planet, for the benefit of all the others.
Cellulose was once unrecyclable trash until some living organisms evolved to produce cellulase enzymes.
Some of modern humans are trying to build circular economy and the circle is getting smaller over time. They are getting closer to self-sustainability.
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« Reply #1893 on: 27/05/2025 11:58:51 »
Sandy Munro reveals why Chinese Car companies are 5 years ahead

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In this eye-opening video, legendary automotive engineer Sandy Munro breaks down why Chinese car companies are now 5 years ahead of global competitors in the EV revolution! From groundbreaking battery technology, manufacturing efficiency, and cutting-edge design, to game-changing strategies in electric vehicles, Munro exposes how brands like BYD, NIO, Xpeng, and Li Auto are dominating the future of electric cars. Discover how China's EV innovation, supply chain control, and smart factory integration are reshaping the automotive industry faster than Tesla and legacy automakers ever imagined. Don?t miss this deep dive into the global shift in EV leadership, and find out what it means for the future of electric mobility, autonomous driving, and sustainable transportation.
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« Reply #1894 on: 27/05/2025 12:05:06 »
Solid-State EVs Will Soon Seal Gas Cars? Fate: 500 Wh/kg Power in 2025!
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Solid-state batteries are about to change everything. With 500 Wh/kg energy density coming in 2025, gas cars don?t stand a chance. In this video, I break down the latest breakthroughs, what it means for EV range, cost, and charging ? and why this tech could be the final nail in the coffin for internal combustion engines.

I will be speaking at the Periklindo Indonesian EV Festival in Bali on July 10 - 11. Influential EV leaders will be present and the location is the perfect place for a holiday. I would love to speak to you in person at the show.
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« Reply #1895 on: 27/05/2025 22:47:04 »
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What are you trying to achieve?
To stem the tide of ignorance, get people to ask questions, abolish human parasites, and make Britain an indefinitely sustainable paradise - at least until the sun engulfs the planet..

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Some of modern humans are trying to build circular economy and the circle is getting smaller over time.
Quite a few people still live in wooden houses and farm without artificial fertilisers and pesticides, as was common a thousand years ago.

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I will be speaking at the Periklindo Indonesian EV Festival in Bali on July 10 - 11. Influential EV leaders will be present and the location is the perfect place for a holiday. I would love to speak to you in person at the show.
but as there is no hope of you getting there in an electric airplane made from recyclable plastic, I will be burning hydrocarbons and talking supercilious bullshit to the excessively wealthy as always.  Zoom is for peasants like you, who will buy electric cars because my sponsors need the money.

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Re: Universal Utopia? What's The Universal Terminal Goal?
« Reply #1896 on: 02/06/2025 08:20:48 »
Do Humans Actually Have Free Will?
Michael Levin is one of the most articulate speaker I've seen on the field of biology and consciousness.
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« Reply #1897 on: 02/06/2025 17:35:01 »
If yo can define free will and consciousness, it might be worthwhile debating the subject.
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« Reply #1898 on: 04/06/2025 08:26:28 »
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If yo can define free will and consciousness, it might be worthwhile debating the subject.
Have you watched the video?
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« Reply #1899 on: 04/06/2025 15:29:27 »
I have no intention of doing so.
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