[puppypower]

A related question is, is time a potential? For example, say we had an experiment where all the forces of nature are active in the lab. What I will do is take a still picture, so I can simulate stopping time, so I can see the impact. What you will notice are the forces of nature are no longer active. Without time, everything has reached steady state and never changes from that point on. The entropy has reached a constant amount and remains there.

Another thing one will notice, in the still photograph, is Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in action. This is reflected in an affected call motion blur. Motion blur occurs when the action is faster than the shutter speed. Motion blur gives us the impression of motion. However, with time stopped in the photo, time associated with motion, is being expressed via uncertainty in position. In the photo below, places that are in focus, allow us to know position, but we cannot determine the momentum since it looks stopped. While where the image is blurry with motion blur, we can sense momentum, but we can't determine position.

In the case of the motion blur, time is being approximated by uncertainty in distance. This gives us a sense of action wth time stopped. This seems to indicate that time potential lingers in the still photo but becomes converted to distance potential since the photo does not stop distance from expression. This also suggests that time moves in a quantum step fashion, going from motion to motion blur, as it propagates on and off. We call the composite affect space-time and Heisenberg Uncertainty, but it is really composed to two separate affects; time and distance potential both of which are connected to time potential.

Say we added extra time potential to space-time. We get acceleration which is d//t/t. In the photo, we have stopped time therefore both space-time and acceleration are no longer expressed. While the appearance of motion, due to force and acceleration is still expressed as uncertainty in distance or distance potential.

[guest4091]

demalk #70;

All our choices are made in our unconscious mind.

You can only make conscious decisions. (check your dictionary)

Look, there are replicated studies where the measuring device already shows what the participant's decision will be seconds before the decision is made, that is, while the participant still feels like he is exerting his freedom of choice. You still feel like you're weighing your options, but the machine measuring your brain activity has already produced accurately the result of your decision. This should pretty much end the discussion, no?

Studies by neurologists show there is a lag of a few 100 ms, between the application of a stimulus and a persons awareness of it, and a persons decision to act and the physical act. The complexity of brain functions requires a finite amount of time. Perception of an event occurs after the event (per Relativity Theory), otherwise it's magic.

You are still accountable for them.

Not if the person is without free will. If their actions are predetermined, they have no motive.  Just as in the insanity defense. 

The same person who forms an addictive habit, also chooses to quit, using the same brain for both choices.

You can connect live wires to a dead frog and make it twitch, but the frog is still dead.
All this demonstrates is how the nervous system works.

Secondly: all we would need to predict with 100% accuracy which number the ball will land on in a roulette spin, is a complete picture of all the classical elements influencing the ball's behavior.

That idea is dependent on an ideal world, which only exists in the mind.
In the real world of quality control, there are small scale variations which are accepted as insignificant and normal, unless methods are refined. At the quantum scale, there is a limit to precision of measurement.

I was anticipating you explanation of DNA to be based on the mechanics of matter, in keeping with your previous statements, but no response.
The honors for scientific discoveries like DNA, should be rescinded, since the inanimate elements can achieve more than humankind, according to popular opinions
If DNA is the blueprint for forming a human, and is transferred in the process of conception, and requires two donors, what is its origin?
The human life form is carbon based, but molecules are composed of atoms. Speaking metaphorically, how would the elements know which basic units are needed, and what sequences will form the varied processes, such as the immune system.

Would you place a stone on the dining table, go to work, and return home expecting dinner?
If you have money to invest, do you seek advice from inanimate matter, or a person?

[yor_on]

No Demalk, it's a simple thing I'm directing you too. The main reason for a quantuum entanglement being so mysterious is the fact that in a simplest case the probability for a spin to be up or down is 50/50.  But the 'other side' of a down converted photon, into two, will always 'know' the outcome of the other. And the main thing here isn't even that :) It's the probability itself that should be interesting. You might even want to argue that both things coexist in this case. 'Free will', as well as a deterministic outcome for the 'other part'.

And HUP is HUP

[demalk (OP)]

No Demalk, it's a simple thing I'm directing you too. The main reason for a quantuum entanglement being so mysterious is the fact that in a simplest case the probability for a spin to be up or down is 50/50.  But the 'other side' of a down converted photon, into two, will always 'know' the outcome of the other. And the main thing here isn't even that It's the probability itself that should be interesting. You might even want to argue that both things coexist in this case. 'Free will', as well as a deterministic outcome for the 'other part'.

And HUP is HUP

Thanks for pointing that out. I am aware that I am probably wrong. I just really love these discussions and also they are extremely helpful in gaining a better understanding of things. I will be looking into all the input from yourself and others in this thread more closely over the next period of time, and return with a new post/comment as soon as I have something to say that I haven't said already. Until then, thank you all for your contributions!