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Where should artificial intelligence stop?

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Re: Where should artificial intelligence stop?
« Reply #40 on: 31/12/2017 21:13:17 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 31/12/2017 19:53:34
"Artificial intelligence" research and development is driven exclusively by big corporations seeking to establish a new electronical world order.

Not so - there is nothing to stop you developing it yourself, if you're prepared to work hard.

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Scientists and developers working on AI systems are corrupted and do not work for the greater good of humanity, unless a consensus is made to fully democratize this scientific field.

There are AGI projects being run by mass-murdering dictatorships, and they will build and release it into the wild if they are not prevented from doing so. There are other AGI projects being run by big companies in democracies, but their main motivation is to make lots of money. If you try to clamp down on the latter group, you simply make it more likely that the former group will get there first and that evil will reign forever (or more likely for a very short time before wiping everyone out). There are also individuals trying to create AGI though who aren't interested in becoming rich, but who want to create something that will benefit all good people everywhere, and some of them will create safe AGI systems. Who will get there first? Most likely the ones backed by big businesses as they have well-motivated people and plenty of funding, although they trip over each other a lot, and that gives a chance to the smaller teams and individuals if they are following a better path. The biggest problem for the big teams is that they leak secrets to each other, and, most damagingly, to the dictatorships, so that shackles how they can use their workers and restricts the gains that could be made by sharing out the effort. Democratising the process will not help - it will merely hand on a plate the most powerful weapon of all time to the most dangerous of bastards.
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Re: Where should artificial intelligence stop?
« Reply #41 on: 31/12/2017 21:19:49 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 31/12/2017 21:11:20
So in AI development buggy code is ignored. The AI then modifies this buggy code in ways it thinks will improve it. How does that make sense?

Buggy code runs with bugs, but you can still write a perfect document using a bug-ridden text editor. You yourself are running on bug-ridden programs which lead to you making lots of errors, but you also have the ability to recognise and correct some/most/all of your errors. If you write a program to carry out a task and you see that it doesn't perform the task correctly, you know there's a fault in it, so you hunt it down and try to correct it. Sometimes you have a program with a serious fault in it which works most of the time, so it allows you to do what you want to most times, but on some occasions it will crash. Good code can be created by faulty code - all human programmers run on faulty code, but some of them produce perfect programs to do things that they can't do themselves directly without making endless errors. Calculators enable us to get the right answers to complex maths problems in an instant, where it might take hours for us to crunch the numbers for ourselves and we wouldn't be sure that our answers are correct.
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Re: Where should artificial intelligence stop?
« Reply #42 on: 31/12/2017 22:28:29 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 31/12/2017 19:38:43
It might just switch us off instead. :-\
Then it had better stop watching cartoons and learn how to run & maintain power plants, oil wells, oil distribution systems, wind power, spare parts factories, etc, etc
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Re: Where should artificial intelligence stop?
« Reply #43 on: 01/01/2018 19:10:25 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 31/12/2017 22:28:29
Quote from: jeffreyH on 31/12/2017 19:38:43
It might just switch us off instead. :-\
Then it had better stop watching cartoons and learn how to run & maintain power plants, oil wells, oil distribution systems, wind power, spare parts factories, etc, etc


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Re: Where should artificial intelligence stop?
« Reply #44 on: 02/01/2018 09:28:06 »
The term "Artificial intelligence" is a neuronarrative (mnemonic) to prepare us for the new electronical world order.
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Re: Where should artificial intelligence stop?
« Reply #45 on: 02/01/2018 22:20:02 »
Well, here’s some good AI news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42357257
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