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« Reply #20 on: 13/04/2007 21:56:51 »
OOOps! Sorry, when I posted that, it was 58 seconds! Soo.. Well, the minute has passed now, my dear comrade [:D]
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« Reply #21 on: 13/04/2007 22:06:41 »
I really hope the nice people at Nobel will give me the time I need for my acceptance speech !!


OK...this is what happened  !

It took two whole nights and days for the salt water to adequately freeze and as ewe can see it has turned very white....yesterday it was translucent and slushy !!





As ewe can also see the wine has indeed frozen very ' crystaline'...Ice station Zebra is there as control cubes !!



Immediately upon ' outing ' the specimens the Salt-Cube began to melt!...The Wine-Cube was not far behind .




I tested the saltiness by utilizing a very advanced piece of technology...my tongue !! I had to use haste as the melting was quick !

The bottom of the Salt-Cube was far more salty than the top.......

I observed that immediately upon popping the cubes  out that the inner of the tray where the Salt-Cube lay was wet ...The Wine-Cube also but not as much.........the control cubes were dry !!

The Wine-Cube was extremely mushy and very very fragile.

And thus..this concludes my empirical data...for which I am a firm believer of !!  [;D]


I thank you.


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« Reply #22 on: 13/04/2007 22:09:32 »
Haha, well done Neil. *Claps*

It was actually quite an interesting thing to read. [:)]

By the way Neil, as you probably would like wine, what did the wine-cube taste like? (I assume you popped it straight in your mouth after taking the photos [;D])
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« Reply #23 on: 13/04/2007 22:15:25 »
Quote from: Seany on 13/04/2007 22:09:32
Haha, well done Neil. *Claps*

It was actually quite an interesting thing to read. [:)]

By the way Neil, as you probably would like wine, what did the wine-cube taste like? (I assume you popped it straight in your mouth after taking the photos [;D])

Actually Sean..I don't drink alcohol at all...I just happened to have a half bottle that I had recently used to cook with....however..I did taste it...and it was disgusting.....though I think the slat-cube was even worse !!

Glad ewe enjoyed it.....YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!
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« Reply #24 on: 13/04/2007 22:17:16 »
Eugh, the salt-cube.. Even thinking of it! *Shudders*
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« Reply #25 on: 13/04/2007 23:44:25 »
Cool Job Neil!
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« Reply #26 on: 14/04/2007 01:57:52 »
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Cool Job Neil!

Why thank ewe very much Colleen.

Hugs the WylieE ...YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
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« Reply #27 on: 14/04/2007 02:01:10 »
Wait.. I complimented you.. Where's my hug? [:(] [:P]
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« Reply #28 on: 14/04/2007 02:09:53 »
Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 02:01:10
Wait.. I complimented you.. Where's my hug? [:(] [:P]

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« Reply #29 on: 14/04/2007 02:10:38 »
Hmm.. See that little yellow fellow! He missed hugging me! Ended up hugging himself. Neil, you selfish boy. Hugging yourself? [:P]
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« Reply #30 on: 14/04/2007 03:04:38 »
Quote from: that mad man on 12/04/2007 17:28:35
have with a bottle of cheap wine transferred to a plastic container and sealed.

I'm not sure if doing it with a ice maker tray will work, probably better to put it into a small 100ml sealed plastic bottle. Any alcohol can then be poured off or just thaw and shake and you have wine again.

I will await the outcome with pleasure!

You do realise that this is probably tantamount to operating an illegal distillery  [;D]
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« Reply #31 on: 14/04/2007 19:21:57 »
Nice one neilep!  [:)]

Just like you though, I have to wait longer for it to freeze.

I will report the success (or lack of) ASAP.


You've hear of Alcopops we give you "Alcoslush" perfect for those long hot summer daze.

Disclaimer:
Remember folks, drinking alcohol can be bad or good for you depending on how much you drink before thinking about it!

TMM
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« Reply #32 on: 14/04/2007 19:26:19 »
Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 02:10:38
Hmm.. See that little yellow fellow! He missed hugging me! Ended up hugging himself. Neil, you selfish boy. Hugging yourself? [:P]


Grrrr !!..LOL 
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« Reply #33 on: 14/04/2007 19:28:29 »
Quote from: that mad man on 14/04/2007 19:21:57
Nice one neilep!  [:)]

Just like you though, I have to wait longer for it to freeze.

I will report the success (or lack of) ASAP.


You've hear of Alcopops we give you "Alcoslush" perfect for those long hot summer daze.

Disclaimer:
Remember folks, drinking alcohol can be bad or good for you depending on how much you drink before thinking about it!

TMM

Excellent TMM !!...it will be great to see how your results compare.

good luck with it !

..and I don't mind sharing Nobel prize....cos I'm nice !!.. [;D]
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« Reply #34 on: 14/04/2007 19:58:14 »
Quote from: neilep on 13/04/2007 22:06:41
I really hope the nice people at Nobel will give me the time I need for my acceptance speech !!


OK...this is what happened  !

It took two whole nights and days for the salt water to adequately freeze and as ewe can see it has turned very white....yesterday it was translucent and slushy !!





As ewe can also see the wine has indeed frozen very ' crystaline'...Ice station Zebra is there as control cubes !!



Immediately upon ' outing ' the specimens the Salt-Cube began to melt!...The Wine-Cube was not far behind .




I tested the saltiness by utilizing a very advanced piece of technology...my tongue !! I had to use haste as the melting was quick !

The bottom of the Salt-Cube was far more salty than the top.......

I observed that immediately upon popping the cubes  out that the inner of the tray where the Salt-Cube lay was wet ...The Wine-Cube also but not as much.........the control cubes were dry !!

The Wine-Cube was extremely mushy and very very fragile.

And thus..this concludes my empirical data...for which I am a firm believer of !!  [;D]


I thank you.


*takes bow...receives award*





WOOOOOWHOOOOOO.. Nice piccy's Neily good job on the experiment.. LOL I like those Ice cube trays.. They would have been grate when me kids were babbies, but you could still freeze gravies etc in them or broth in order to add them to lovely meals when you only need a little bit you could have hem frozen and stored in freezer bags waiting for the perfect meal! LOL
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« Reply #35 on: 15/04/2007 16:06:30 »
Da daa!

The concluding episode of how to turn wine into water!

So, I took 100ml of wine put it into a bottle and froze it.

The piccys:



Like with neils experiment the wine did not freeze completely solid and when tipped to one side still had some liquid.
The liquid was poured off and measured about 4ml. I cant tell exactly and done by taste but the liquid seemed to be stronger in its alcohol content.

Conclusion: Freezing has partly separated out some of the alcohol.

A better test would be to freeze a greater quantity and use a hydrometer to check before and after draining off the liquid.

Sits back with a smile and drinks what's left!

I thank you........... [;D]

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« Reply #36 on: 15/04/2007 18:29:34 »
Ooo.. Nice experiment! [;D]
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« Reply #37 on: 15/04/2007 19:40:34 »
BRAVOOOO!!! Good job... what would happen if you drank the liquid portion and refroze the other again.. would this continue to leave a small amount of alchohol each time, untill there was no alcohol left in the frozen lump?? You know what I mean.. would it eventually become alcohol free wine!!! LOL ...WELL???? I really am curious!
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« Reply #38 on: 15/04/2007 19:54:49 »
Well, besides just the alcohol, the sugars and salts would stay in the liquid portion, so you would be drinking them off too. . .and so if you kept repeating it- you'd be left with water.

You can notice this, if you put some flavored drink like Kool-AID or a Coke in the freezer (for not too long!) if you drink it while it is still frozen, the part you drink first is really sweet and syrupy, if you drink all of that off- then when the frozen part melts, it is pretty tasteless (mostly water). 

This is what happens to plants that live in freezing areas- one of the biggest problems for plants in low temperature is actually dehydration- because the only liquid left is high in salts. (see I knew I could turn it into a plant post! [;D])
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« Reply #39 on: 15/04/2007 20:45:52 »
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!

FANTASTIC !!!!  EXCELLENT !!!!


Nicely Done Colleeen. (Hugs the Wylie.E)



*le sigh*...is there going to be enuff of this Nobel prize to spread around ?
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