[Bored chemist]

But TV licensing is mostly politics, not science.

It may be part politics, but the truth is we are being charged a licence to view light.  Light is the science involved.

True to exactly the extent that light bulbs need a TV license.
That's to say, not actually true at all.
Why do you post that sort of dross?

The police are regularly involved and enforce it.   It is not treated as a civil debt, magistrates even giving bailiffs such as Marston's, a power of arrest warrant.   Marston's bailiffs have an arrest team . 

Make up your mind.
Is it a police matter, or are they using  civil debt proceedings- such as  bailiffs?

 Marston's bailiffs have an arrest team .   You still think this is lawful in anyway?

Yes.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/15/part/3/crossheading/powers-of-arrest

Why don't you put at least a hint of effort into finding stuff out before ranting about nonsense?

[alancalverd]

They are abusing their position by enforcing a television licence by way of using police. 

Television licences are not "enforced". You are under no obligation to have a television.

[guest39538]

They are abusing their position by enforcing a television licence by way of using police. 

Television licences are not "enforced". You are under no obligation to have a television.

I am neither under any obligation to have signals beamed at my dwelling either, but they are trespassing with this signal.

Do the UK charge a licence fee to other countries who can pick up the bbc etc?

[guest39538]

Yes.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/15/part/3/crossheading/powers-of-arrest

Why don't you put at least a hint of effort into finding stuff out before ranting about nonsense?

So you think it is lawful that a bailiff , not a high court bailiff can make an arrest in a civil matter?  You have no morals Mr C. 

If any bailiff tried to put their hands on me, I would be placing them under a citizens arrest for assault.   Bailiffs are not the police, the freeman does not recognise any authority from these individuals.

The government is really allowing them to impersonate police officers? 

That is what they are doing.   I witnessed this the other week, a single mum of four threatened by a marstons bailiff of arrest if she did not pay a tv licence fine.

[guest39538]

True to exactly the extent that light bulbs need a TV license.

Actually  based on government poor logic , they may as well charge a licence for a light bulb as it is technically the same thing but different frequency.

Anyway a question, does everyone have the right to experiment, to detect spacial activity?

[Bored chemist]

So you think it is lawful that a bailiff , not a high court bailiff can make an arrest in a civil matter?  You have no morals Mr C. 

Why do you think that my pointing out a fact of law (people can arrest people) is an indicator of my morals?

I am neither under any obligation to have signals beamed at my dwelling either, but they are trespassing with this signal.

Feel free to take them to court.
The court will point out that it isn't trespass and that you are- as so often in this thread "wrong on the facts" as well as wrong on the law.
.

If any bailiff tried to put their hands on me, I would be placing them under a citizens arrest for assault.   

And, if they were acting reasonably and within the law (in the court's opinion- not yours) then you would be sued for false arrest (and possibly assault too).

The government is really allowing them to impersonate police officers? 

No the government is licensing them as bailiffs.

I witnessed this the other week, a single mum of four threatened by a marstons bailiff of arrest if she did not pay a tv licence fine.

Failure to comply with a court order such as a fine  will leave you liable to arrest.
If it didn't, how would the courts enforce their decisions?

You seem not to have noticed that the difference here is that she is arrested for non compliance with a court order rather than arrested for not paying the license fee.

It's really very clear that you don't know what  you are talking about.
Why don't you stop cluttering up the site with your nonsense?

[Bored chemist]

Actually  based on government poor logic , they may as well charge a licence for a light bulb as it is technically the same thing but different frequency.

Well, if you can't tell the difference then it's easy.
Buy a light bulb instead of a telly.
Then you won't need a license.

Of course, if it turns out that you find watching a lamp less satisfying that watching TV then you will have realise that you were talking nonsense. (The rest of us already spotted that)

[Bored chemist]

Anyway a question, does everyone have the right to experiment, to detect spacial activity?

Probably best left to another thread but the answers are "yes" and "where else (apart from space) does activity take place?" respectively.

[guest39538]

So you think it is lawful that a bailiff , not a high court bailiff can make an arrest in a civil matter?  You have no morals Mr C. 

Why do you think that my pointing out a fact of law (people can arrest people) is an indicator of my morals?

I am neither under any obligation to have signals beamed at my dwelling either, but they are trespassing with this signal.

Feel free to take them to court.
The court will point out that it isn't trespass and that you are- as so often in this thread "wrong on the facts" as well as wrong on the law.
.

If any bailiff tried to put their hands on me, I would be placing them under a citizens arrest for assault.   

And, if they were acting reasonably and within the law (in the court's opinion- not yours) then you would be sued for false arrest (and possibly assault too).

The government is really allowing them to impersonate police officers? 

No the government is licensing them as bailiffs.

I witnessed this the other week, a single mum of four threatened by a marstons bailiff of arrest if she did not pay a tv licence fine.

Failure to comply with a court order such as a fine  will leave you liable to arrest.
If it didn't, how would the courts enforce their decisions?

You seem not to have noticed that the difference here is that she is arrested for non compliance with a court order rather than arrested for not paying the license fee.

It's really very clear that you don't know what  you are talking about.
Why don't you stop cluttering up the site with your nonsense?

One question, an empty box, we add radiation, have we just changed the entropy of the box?

p.s is this your job?

[guest39538]

Anyway a question, does everyone have the right to experiment, to detect spacial activity?

Probably best left to another thread but the answers are "yes" and "where else (apart from space) does activity take place?" respectively.

So you are saying yes , that means if i claim a television is for detection of spacial activity or localised activity, then I am covered?

You know, it is not a television,  it is my scientific detection equipment on a budget

[Bored chemist]

p.s is this your job?

No
I have taken the day off to get a washing machine delivered.
My job is working for bit of the government  that doesn't like being mentioned on the web. It probably isn't any of the ones you are thinking of.
(That's also why I post under a fake name).

[Bored chemist]

So you are saying yes , that means if i claim a television is for detection of space, then I am covered?

No.
Not only did I not say anything like tat, but it's probably wrong.

It's also a bit silly.
Why would you want to "detect space"
It's there- it's not going to go away.

[guest39538]

I would win any court case because they can't even get a definition correct, so so stupid

television
ˈtɛlɪvɪʒ(ə)n,tɛlɪˈvɪʒ(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
a system for converting visual images (with sound) into electrical signals, transmitting them by radio or other means, and displaying them electronically on a screen.
"the days before television"
2.
a device with a screen for receiving television signals.

Neither definition true or accurate.

Visual images , really? are these people who wrote this slow or something?

television signals? no such thing you idiots.

[guest39538]

So you are saying yes , that means if i claim a television is for detection of space, then I am covered?

No.
Not only did I not say anything like tat, but it's probably wrong.

It's also a bit silly.
Why would you want to "detect space"
It's there- it's not going to go away.

I edited, but you already said yes to the free practice of science.

[guest39538]

p.s is this your job?

No
I have taken the day off to get a washing machine delivered.
My job is working for bit of the government  that doesn't like being mentioned on the web. It probably isn't any of the ones you are thinking of.
(That's also why I post under a fake name).

Cool dude, respect to you for being something like a social worker then?

Or maybe you are newspaper reporter for the government?

Damn, I am nosy sorry.

Obvious not a spy lol.

[Bored chemist]

I edited, but you already said yes to the free practice of science.

I said nothing about "free" practice.
You are allowed to experiment- but not to break the law to do so.

[Bored chemist]

Cool dude, respect to you for being something like a social worker then?

Close enough.

This web page counts as social media and all govt employees are expected to follow the rules.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/social-media-guidance-for-civil-servants/social-media-guidance-for-civil-servants

[guest39538]

I edited, but you already said yes to the free practice of science.

I said nothing about "free" practice.
You are allowed to experiment- but not to break the law to do so.

There is a difference in breaking the law and using the law.   If I re-define a television in being a spacial frequency detector, because as defined a television is not a spacial frequency detection, then claim it is scientific research, how can that not be legal?

[Bored chemist]

television signals? no such thing you idiots.

What does the BBC broadcast on the UHF bands?
The court would probably think it reasonable to consider them to be TV signals- because that's what they are.

If I re-define a television in being a spacial frequency detector,

You can't because it doesn't detect spatial frequency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_frequency

It would be better if you stopped being silly.

[guest39538]

Cool dude, respect to you for being something like a social worker then?

Close enough.

This web page counts as social media and all govt employees are expected to follow the rules.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/social-media-guidance-for-civil-servants/social-media-guidance-for-civil-servants

So you are an internet publicity person for the government?

OK, cool job, do you realise that most of common people of the land do not bother voting because ''we'' hate all of ''you'' who have a piss poor attempt at running a country?

Do you not know a likeable government will govern any country with ease and all the people would be willing to die for that country?  At the moment most of the common people in the UK would let invaders happily have this chit hole country.