[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

In miniature this can be imagined as follows. If you move your hands back and forth in the bathroom with water, you can create a mini-tsunami effortlessly and in seconds. The tidal wave is formed by a similar principle.

Consider the mechanism of formation of tides in the Bay of Fundy, created by the "Moon theory of tides":
"Lunar tidal current" moving from east to west along the vast expanses of the Atlantic Ocean cuts into the east coast of the Gulf of Maine forming high tides, two meters high.
And reflecting the unknown about what and with the help of the Coriolis force turns north, towards the Bay of Fundy, create tides 16 meters high ..

But there are questions:
1. Why the "Lunar tidal current" crashing into the east shore of the Gulf of Maine does not create anomalously high tides in the south of the gulf, at least five meters high, the south of the bay is three times closer than the Bay of Fundy.
2. The frontal collision of the "Lunar tidal current" falls on the eastern shore of the Gulf of Maine, why there are not formed thirty-meter tides, although the wedge-shaped bays and bays in the east of the Gulf of Men are quite numerous?
3. How the Coriolis force works in the Gulf of Maine.
4. And the fourth question? According to some laws, there is a reflection of the Lunar tidal current from the Gulf of Maine to the Bay of Fundy, and whether the law of reflection is in force here.

[opportunity]

Ok, so there are theories about tidal flows that perhaps have a lot to do with local estuaries, local sand banks, that sort of thing, right?

[rmolnav]

If you're talking about a spinning object, spinning stably on a point, we're looking at a ballerina, right?
Putting this in the context of a 2/3rds liquid surface planet, what are those liquid arms doing with the gravitational pull of the Moon to stay stable?
A flywheel, a counterweight, that other tide facing away from the Moon, right?

Again: you are mixing things ...
Daily spinning of Earth, a kind of alone ballerina (but without the possibility of "deciding" to raise arms), due to its high angular speed, keeps causing the so called "equatorial bulge", more than 40 km high (affecting both solid Earth and water) ... due to huge, inherent centrifugal forces. But nothing to do with the Moon.
The high tide facing away from the Moon (occurring on top of that deformed sphere), somehow acts as a counterweight as you say,  and is logically much, much smaller, because it is due to the fact that at farther hemisphere centrifugal force´s effects outdone Moon´s pull´s ... Normal tidal bulges are therefore much, much smaller,  mainly because now angular speed is some 28 times smaller ... 

[Bored chemist]

we're looking at a ballerina, right?

No.

[guest39538]

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Just a comment in picture form.

[rmolnav]

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Just a comment in picture form.

Sorry, but that is erroneous, or at least misleading.
Moon and Sun cause let us call them "primary" bulges (the ones in their direction), being the first bigger than the later, as seen in the picture ...
But ONLY Moon related bulge is visible, causing a high tide that, as Earth spins around its own axis, are perceptible a couple of hours behind sublunar Moon´s meridian.
Sun related bulge acts similarly, but in relation with the Sun ... Therefore, it always "happens" app. at 2:00 P.M.
But both effects add up, and we can see only Moon related one, but enhanced or reduced according to the relative position Sun/Moon ...
Apart from those two "primary" high tides , we have the antipode high tides (not to discuss their cause here), the Sun related one always at 2:00 A.M.
That´s why bigger high tides always occur app. at 2:00 A.M. and at 2:00 P.M., because a "primary" bulge and the antipode one related to the other celestial body occur on same meridian and high tides add up.
And the two visible bulges are always in line with the Moon !! 
 

[rmolnav]

Sorry... Something to add to:

That´s why bigger high tides always occur app. at 2:00 A.M. and at 2:00 P.M., because a "primary" bulge and the antipode one related to the other celestial body occur on same meridian and high tides add up.

That is when full Moon. When new Moon "primary" bulges related to Sun and Moon add up, as well as respective antipodal bulges ...

[Bored chemist]

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Just a comment in picture form.

Interesting.
A post that is
written by someone who repeatedly posts nonsense and
is completely wrong,
earns a thank you from the guy who marked his own completely wrong response to his wrong-headed thread as the "best".

It's time this site started to ban people who post anti-science.

[guest39538]

Interesting.
A post that is
written by someone who repeatedly posts nonsense and
is completely wrong,
earns a thank you from the guy who marked his own completely wrong response to his wrong-headed thread as the "best".

It's time this site started to ban people who post anti-science.

Interesting that the moon and the sun are not aligned in orbit ,  the sun has a gravitational affect on the oceans so will cause a slight deform on the ocean , the moon as we know has a much larger affect on deforming the oceans and creating a tidal bulge. 
What is interesting is eventually the moon will have moved so far away , it will let go of the bulge causing the oceans to ''flatten'' out.  maybe even sending tidal waves around the world.
But worse of all it will affect the eco- system of the oceans  ..

Please continue,sorry Mr C tried to ruin your thread.

[Colin2B]

Do you think your "resonance" idea is going to catch?

It already has. It is taught at major oceonagraphy institutes and the Bay of Fundy is used as a case study..

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Why high tides from resonance are not formed in the south of the Gulf of Maine.

1. Why the "Lunar tidal current" crashing into the east shore of the Gulf of Maine does not create anomalously high tides in the south of the gulf, at least five meters high, the south of the bay is three times closer than the Bay of Fundy.
2. The frontal collision of the "Lunar tidal current" falls on the eastern shore of the Gulf of Maine, why there are not formed thirty-meter tides, although the wedge-shaped bays and bays in the east of the Gulf of Men are quite numerous?

If you are asking these question you are clearly not understanding resonance.

The lunar theory of tides is based on:
1. On the blind faith of people, on the printed word.
2. People do not want to think for themselves.

If you are descending to this type of argument you are clearly lacking any real evidence.

You claim that a current of 15km/h is required in the Northern part of the Gulf of Maine, but buoy data from this area shows a maximum of 2.34km/h over the first 5 months of this year.

The lunar theory is highly predictive and has proven accuracy.  We are still awaiting your detailed calculations for your theory, which you are avoiding posting. If you continue to avoid providing detailed calculations there is little point continuing as you are just wasting our time.

[rmolnav]

Interesting that the moon and the sun are not aligned in orbit (*) ,  the sun has a gravitational affect on the oceans so will cause a slight deform on the ocean , the moon as we know has a much larger affect on deforming the oceans and creating a tidal bulge (**). 

Sorry, but I´ll have to agree with rather "radical" post of "Bored chemist", because it´s clear you haven´t even read my posts #149 and 150, and you go on saying flawed things:
(*): How they could be "aligned in orbit" (permanently), if the "couple" is following an orbit revolving around the Sun, and they also are following their own orbits around their common center of mass (barycenter) ??
But, as said on mentioned posts, they are actually aligned with Earth when full and new Moon !!
(**) Moon creates actually TWO tidal bulges, as also said on mentioned posts, and what shwon on "a comment in picture form" is far from reality and utterly misleading !!

[opportunity]

You spin something long enough, line the planets, patterns evolve....patterns relative to references. Why don't we ask why the Earth needs to spin the way it does with all its water and tides with a Moon?

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

You claim that a current of 15km/h is required in the Northern part of the Gulf of Maine, but buoy data from this area shows a maximum of 2.34km/h over the first 5 months of this year.

At a maximum of 2.34 km / h, what is the height of the tides?
Find the height of the tides of 15 meters, the speed should be 15 km / h?
If this does not happen, I will apologize to everyone for losing my time and yours.

[Colin2B]

You claim that a current of 15km/h is required in the Northern part of the Gulf of Maine, but buoy data from this area shows a maximum of 2.34km/h over the first 5 months of this year.

At a maximum of 2.34 km / h, what is the height of the tides?
Find the height of the tides of 15 meters, the speed should be 15 km / h?
If this does not happen, I will apologize to everyone for losing my time and yours.

Yesterday the Fundy tide was 11m and the buoy in N Gulf of Maine registered 1.98km/h

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

Yesterday the Fundy tide was 11m and the buoy in N Gulf of Maine registered 1.98km/h

Thanks for the numbers!
If the current moves at a speed of 2 km / h, and the height of the tides is 10 m.

Table: Tides and ebbs are formed not along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only in those coasts where the high angular velocity of the currents (1-5 km / h).
On the rectilinear coasts, where currents do not have angular velocity, tides and ebbs do not form.
With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (10 km / h), the height of the tides in the Penzhina Bay increases to 12 meters.
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/41.png
With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Gulf of Maine (15 km / h), the height of the tides in the Bay of Fundy rises to 18 meters.
https://goo.gl/images/cWTVG4
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig4.jpg
"Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the history of observations, on the night of October 4 to October 5 in 1869 under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale."
On the night of October 4 to 5, in 1869, under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale, "a record rainfall fell over the river basins flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), so that the waters of the Bay of Fundy poured into the Gulf of Maine and increased the speed of rotation a whirlpool in the Gulf of Maine.
http://www.gulfofmaine.org/ebm/toolkitsurvey/images/exec-sum-2.jpg
Cyclone Saxby Gale rotating counter-clockwise, also contributed to the unraveling of the whirlpool.
In an abnormally cold winter and during a drought, when rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy merge, the height of the tides does not exceed 1 meter.
https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Fundy-Offshore-1-Nova-Scotia/tides/latest
Table: The dependence of the amplitude of the tides of the Bay of Fundy, on the flow velocity in the north of the Gulf of Maine.
1 km / h - 5 m
5 km / h - 10 m
10 km / h - 15 m
15 km / h - 20 m

The average speed of the current in the English Channel is: 12-13 km / h near the city of Portland. Great Britain, 15-18.5 km / h at Cape Ag France.

The maximum height of the tides is 15 m (the city of Saint-Malo, France).
https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEkHGZMh8I
https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNOpJxfI_Mg
http://geosfera.org/evropa/718-la-mansh-proliv-mezhdu-angliey-i-franciey.html
https: // m.youtube.com/watch?v=M44miAiHhrk

The amplitude of the tides depends on the size of the current, the speed of the current, the direction of the current, the amount of water under the current.
 
It will be difficult to determine the amplitude of the tides with the help of the formula.
It is easier to define it by experience.

The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the whirlpool. And the height of the tidal wave depends on the speed of rotation of the whirlpool of the orbital velocity of the Earth, and the time of the tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).
A = V1 • V2 / t
where: A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).
V1 - rotation speed of the whirlpool.
V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
t - the time of tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).

[opportunity]

Are we are missing the forest for the trees though? Does the Moon relate with the Earth's spin in terms of a tidal connection?

Who is going to say that the shape of the rivers and estuaries makes the moon magically manifest with the tides?

[Bored chemist]

The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the whirlpool.

What whirlpool?

[Colin2B]

Who is going to say that the shape of the rivers and estuaries makes the moon magically manifest with the tides?

No one with any basic understanding of tides.

It will be difficult to determine the amplitude of the tides with the help of the formula.
It is easier to define it by experience.

In other words you don’t have a workable theory, but are falling back on the ‘poke’ method.

Table of the amplitude of the tides of the Bay of Fundy:
1 km / h - 5 m
2 km / h - 10 m
3 km / h - 15 m
4 km / h - 20 m

I’ve logged on to the buoy to check the last year of data and these figures don’t match the tides. Sorry, but another nail in your ‘theory’.

A = V1 • V2 / t
where: A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).
V1 - rotation speed of the whirlpool.
V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
t - the time of tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).

This doesn’t work either.

I don’t see any point in wasting more time on this.
I’m out.

[Yusup Hizirov (OP)]

The reason for the formation of hydrogen sulfide in the Black Sea.
 
Mixing the wind, they enrich water with oxygen only to a depth of several tens of meters of the surface of the seas and oceans, while cyclonic gyres deliver oxygen-rich water to a depth of more than 10 km. (Mariana Trench).

How does this happen?
The waters of the lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, and the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming cyclonic gyres. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre

As is well known, everything that rotates, including gyres, has the property of a gyroscope to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.

If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the gyres revolving with the Earth turn over, due to which the gyres precess, resulting in vertical movement of oceanic waters. http://goo.gl/AM5g1s

The presented theory can be easily verified by relating the oxygen content,? With the rotation speed of the cycle.
Based on the map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
The higher the flow rate, the greater the oxygen content and the lower the hydrogen sulfide content.

List of low oxygen seas.
Black Sea, eastern Mediterranean, Gulf of Mexico, Norway fjords.
As we see, gyres are involved not only in the horizontal circulation of the waters of the seas and oceans, but also in the vertical.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_(ecology)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-dead-zones/

The coefficient of oxygen content can be expressed mathematically by the following formula O = V / G
V - rotation speed, km / h.
G - depth of the reservoir, km.
Black Sea 0.2 / 1200 = 0.00016.
Sea of ​​Okhotsk 1/800 = 0.0012.

Vertical movement of ocean waters can be modeled using simple experience.
For this, a half-filled vessel with a rotating liquid (bucket, tumbler, mixer) must be rotated around itself (in orbit).
If the liquid in the bucket rotates to the right, then the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left. http://bourabai.ru/articles/black_sea.htm

Vertical and horizontal circulation is a vital fundamental law of nature, without which life in the ocean would be impossible.
During the vertical and horizontal circulation, there are also side non-vital effects of nature associated with gyres, ebbs and flows, seasonal rise in sea level, killer waves.
The speed of sea currents in real time.
http://portal.esimo.ru/portal https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov
http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/sat_ocean.html
All physical processes that occur in the ocean occur in the atmosphere, in part, and in the mantle of the earth.
"The laws of nature are universal."
Lao Tzu.

[guest39538]

Vertical movement of ocean waters

The waters of lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, while the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming giant whirlpools.

As you know, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, has the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.

If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, overturn, due to which the whirlpools precess, and as a result there is a vertical movement of oceanic waters. http://goo.gl/AM5g1s

The presented theory can be easily verified by the connection between the oxygen content and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.
Drawing on a map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
The higher the flow velocity, the greater the oxygen content and the lower the hydrogen sulfide content.

List of seas with low oxygen content:
Black Sea. East of the Mediterranean Sea. Gulf of Mexico.
Fjords of Norway.

The opening was published in the Russian-German scientific peer-reviewed journal "Eastern European Scientific Journal" No. 3/2015. 64. June
http://www.auris-archiv.de/journal.html
A positive review was also received from the Institute of Geography of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
Forum SPbSU Faculty of Geography.
http://www.spbgu.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=53992

As Mods are stepping out of the thread, I thought I would share this with you as it may help you.

http://beritaviral.com/

Added- i thought it might help you ''view'' the Coriolis affect.