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Somethings need no evidence, example statement
All things need evidence. Sometimes things that seem to be common sense can be wrong.
This is a little bit confusing. Things don't have to feel solid in order to be real (such as light and heat) nor does feeling solid mean that it is real (things can feel solid in dreams).
I disagree, axioms are evidence.
Like the sky exists, it needs no evidence that the sky exists. Even if the sky was VR, it still exists in the form of energy.
Common sense is something not everyone has. People with real common sense know objective axiom values from make believe. The possible and impossibles.
I am referring to touch rather than feel
solid is not solid in dreams , well not that I am aware of.
Light is a solid, crooks device shows that and light sails.
Heat is not solid , heat is a sense .
That sounds contradictory. If something doesn't need evidence, and axioms are evidence, then they don't need axioms either. Calling something an axiom doesn't necessarily mean that is an axiom either.
I will start with this part . To me an axiom is an absolute, having no other answer or logic that can explain it or answer it . Things that are self evident absolutes. Can you or anybody create or destroy space? No is an axiom.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 20:08:36I will start with this part . To me an axiom is an absolute, having no other answer or logic that can explain it or answer it . Things that are self evident absolutes. Can you or anybody create or destroy space? No is an axiom.Just because you claim that to be an axiom doesn't mean it is.
Who are you trying to convince? I know it is an axiom, it very obvious and very testable.
You can occupy a space and temporarily fill that space, but once you have moved , the space is observed again.
It's also "obvious" that the Earth is flat and that the Sun goes around the Earth,
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 19:47:22I disagree, axioms are evidence. Wrong, pretty much by definition, and proof of my assertion that you don't understand what evidence is.Until you get to grips with that problem you are not going to do anything useful here.
Scientific evidence is evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and interpretation in accordance with scientific method. Standards for scientific evidence vary according to the field of inquiry, but the strength of scientific evidence is generally based on the results of statistical analysis and the strength of scientific controls.
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.[1] This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion.
Test me and you will lose my friend.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 21:20:57Test me and you will lose my friend. [ Invalid Attachment ]
QuoteEvidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.[1] This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion. Space cannot be created or destroyed, space does not age. Space is absolute. Proof
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 21:19:18QuoteEvidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.[1] This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion. Space cannot be created or destroyed, space does not age. Space is absolute. Proof Except that is just an assertion. Assertions are not proof of anything.
Space is absolute is not an assertion, space is nothingness, something that can't be created.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/05/2018 22:55:52Space is absolute is not an assertion, space is nothingness, something that can't be created. You just asserted it. That makes it an assertion.
No, I am not asserting anything, I am pointing out the truth and fact.
Space does not move
All true outside of beliefs.
Test any of those facts, show falsifiable?
According to dictionary.com, an assertion is "a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief": https://www.google.com/search?q=Dictionary#dobs=assertionSo yes, what you have made are assertions.
I guess that rules out your claim that space-time can "spin" around wires, doesn't it?
You're the person making the claim. It's up to you to do that.
Well I tried to destroy space using a lighter, it failed to destroy space. So I went on you-tube and found a nuke, that failed to destroy space. I borrowed a JCB and tried to move space, the space just passed through the JCB,
Lol it is very obvious
It is "very obvious" that the Earth is flat.