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Wave particle duality

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Re: Wave particle duality
« Reply #100 on: 11/06/2018 00:55:30 »
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 11/06/2018 00:44:04
To that I would say that space is already infinite, and has always been filled with the gravitational wave energy density profile of space.

In fast reply not waiting for your edit , I would ask you to recognise your own thought of filled.  For something to be filled it has to be empty to begin with.  Also I would point out wave energy moves relative to space which does not move.
Space has nothing that can move because nothingness cannot be displaced because it has no permeability.

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If at first there was nothing, not even God, then nothing could ever be.
But just look around at the many fine things as far as the eye can see.
So say with certainty one of two things it seems to make sense to proclaim,
Either God, or the universe, has always been here,
And maybe they're one and the same.

If at first there was space forever
Then forever was nothing
But if nothing was God
God would be synonymous of space
So God is everything and nothing


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Re: Wave particle duality
« Reply #101 on: 11/06/2018 01:07:23 »
Quote from: Thebox on 11/06/2018 00:55:30

In fast reply not waiting for your edit , I would ask you to recognise your own thought of filled.  For something to be filled it has to be empty to begin with.
I’m using the word "filled" as an adjective, i.e., an attribute of space, not a verb, i.e., not the act of filling space.
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Also I would point out wave energy moves relative to space which does not move.
Not true in my model, there is no absolute space. Wave energy moves relative to other waves and objects in space, not to space itself.
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Space has nothing that can move because nothingness cannot be displaced because it has no permeability.
Say that in English, lol.

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If at first there was space forever
Then forever was nothing
But if nothing was God
God would be synonymous of space
So God is everything and nothing

So you are a poet too. To each his own.

« Last Edit: 11/06/2018 01:11:49 by Bogie_smiles »
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Re: Wave particle duality
« Reply #102 on: 11/06/2018 01:22:50 »
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 11/06/2018 01:07:23
Space has nothing that can move because nothingness cannot be displaced because it has no permeability.
Say that in English, lol.
Lol, sorry!

Consider a geometrical point, can the point move or be moved? 

We could change position to a different point, but we cannot displace the point. 

Now if we consider wave energy traversing point to point, that is moving relative to the background of space is it not ?
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Re: Wave particle duality
« Reply #103 on: 11/06/2018 01:32:19 »

Quote from: Thebox on 11/06/2018 01:22:50


Lol, sorry!


Consider a geometrical point, can the point move or be moved? 


We could change position to a different point, but we cannot displace the point. 


Now if we consider wave energy traversing point to point, that is moving relative to the background of space is it not ?



A point can be designated but not in absolute space. It has to be designated relative to something in space. Look up the term "absolute space".
Try to allow yourself to concede that the definition of nothingness does not allow for something to come from nothing:
The definition of nothingness:
No space, no time, no energy, and no potential for any space, time or energy.

You are going to extremes to refuse to concede that my definition defeats the concept of zero point energy from nothingness. Give it up or look it up. Pursuing this any further with you is a waste of time beyond.
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Re: Wave particle duality
« Reply #104 on: 11/06/2018 02:44:23 »
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 11/06/2018 01:32:19
You are going to extremes to refuse to concede that my definition defeats the concept of zero point energy from nothingness. Give it up or look it up. Pursuing this any further with you is a waste of time beyond.
Well I do consider zero point energy in a different way to conventional,  as you can see in my ''will this work'' thread
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