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Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?

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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #60 on: 16/06/2018 13:02:35 »
Quote from: Thebox on 16/06/2018 12:46:45
Quote from: Colin2B on 16/06/2018 05:45:25
Quote from: Thebox on 16/06/2018 01:35:17
Naked science forum in some way thinks I am a bit ''nuts''  ..................So because of their own subjective suspicions, I am being evaluated by possible social services , psychologists or such in a risk assessment.   
Are you suggesting that social services monitors TNS user's online posting?

PS regarding your comment to @The Spoon about alcohol and yeast, have you never made wine or beer?

I made a home brew when I was young but never considered how it worked, just followed the instructions. 

As for social services, lol there is social workers on this forum.

let me do a risk assessment for you hey ?


My kids are in grave danger of turning out clever with a good upbringing.  They are in danger of getting good jobs, never drinking alcohol or smoking because Daddy shows them it is bad . 

My kids are allowed freedom of speech and my kids do and are allowed to tell daddy he is stupid for smoking, risking bad health. 

My kids have been trained the best I can in defence from an early age to block physical attacks, they are quite good at it too, hurts my arms now by their blocks when we practice.


Alcohol is a depressant.


Google it. Its not going to make you trip and then go all paranoid.
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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #61 on: 16/06/2018 13:06:06 »
Quote from: opportunity on 16/06/2018 13:02:35
Quote from: Thebox on 16/06/2018 12:46:45
Quote from: Colin2B on 16/06/2018 05:45:25
Quote from: Thebox on 16/06/2018 01:35:17
Naked science forum in some way thinks I am a bit ''nuts''  ..................So because of their own subjective suspicions, I am being evaluated by possible social services , psychologists or such in a risk assessment.   
Are you suggesting that social services monitors TNS user's online posting?

PS regarding your comment to @The Spoon about alcohol and yeast, have you never made wine or beer?

I made a home brew when I was young but never considered how it worked, just followed the instructions. 

As for social services, lol there is social workers on this forum.

let me do a risk assessment for you hey ?


My kids are in grave danger of turning out clever with a good upbringing.  They are in danger of getting good jobs, never drinking alcohol or smoking because Daddy shows them it is bad . 

My kids are allowed freedom of speech and my kids do and are allowed to tell daddy he is stupid for smoking, risking bad health. 

My kids have been trained the best I can in defence from an early age to block physical attacks, they are quite good at it too, hurts my arms now by their blocks when we practice.


Alcohol is a depressant.


Google it. Its not going to make you trip and then go all paranoid.

Firstly weed does not make a person trip out unless they are a ''light weight.''   Secondly alcohol does make people trip out and paranoid, you are incorrect.  It may be a temporary thing why they are intoxicated, but if smashing each others head in, up town on a Friday night is not tripping out, then nothing is.
I have seen lots of alcohol incidents myself, never seen any weed incidents, so which one is objectively worse?


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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #62 on: 16/06/2018 13:15:42 »
"Firstly weed does not make a person trip out unless they are a ''light weight.'' 

Yeah, you get use to yourself, right, in forgetting everything else, right?



Another thing, does anyone know the point of alchohol?


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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #63 on: 16/06/2018 13:18:04 »
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Yeah, you get use to yourself, right, in forgetting everything else, right?




Only if I want to put myself in that place where I can ignore the world around me.   I am in control of in or out of a 'dream' state.

Would you like me to switch for you or stay in reality? 

There is no point to alcohol, it is bad....it is nasty, it promotes evil.
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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #64 on: 16/06/2018 13:22:53 »
I'd like to know how you can switch.

It shouldn't be that hard.


"There" is a reality you can trust, with others.



The question is, "why try to super-charge with narcotics"?







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« Reply #65 on: 16/06/2018 13:24:44 »
Quote from: opportunity on 16/06/2018 13:22:53
I'd like to know how you can switch.

It shouldn't be that hard.




I can switch by several ways, letting myself become extremely tired,  smoking more, a question to concentrate deep on.

I smoke a single fag paper ''joint'' , I don't smoke the long ones you see as the normal.
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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #66 on: 16/06/2018 13:29:23 »
Why not just accept you're a dope smoker and find how that works, how well, how bad, while not being too narcissistic on the pot trip?
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« Reply #67 on: 16/06/2018 13:33:42 »
Quote from: opportunity on 16/06/2018 13:29:23
Why not just accept you're a dope smoker and find how that works, how well, how bad, while not being too narcissistic on the pot trip?

I know how it works, it allows the mind to slow down , time is removed, time is not noticed, the imagination can picture the often impossible.   It only works though if the person is clever to start with.  I know some proper stupid stoners.
If a person isn't knowledgeable, they will not be able to translate their imagination into something real.  I sort of pull the physics in from my sub conscious, swapping and changing parts etc until the puzzle is built to something that looks like science.

let us imagine a pink elephant, people can't see the pink elephant because they can't see the tins of paint behind the elephant.  Picture a painter painting a grey elephant pink, then that becomes reality of a pink elephant.

So can you tell me there is no such thing as a pink elephant? 

I will tell you there can be pink elephants because I have objectively created one. So in reality on a sister earth or similar by light wavelengths, there could exist for real a pink elephant.

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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #68 on: 16/06/2018 13:56:15 »
When you're doing pot, time relative to yourself is not slowing down, its speeding up, close to a dream-state, REM. The rest of the world though is awake on a different speed of time-analysis. You're picturing things faster, more intense, but thats not how humanity is travelling, right?

In medical situations, pot can be ok to drive up the thought process, yet for a normal human it could entain a lot of thought that is baseless in a future context, right?


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« Reply #69 on: 16/06/2018 14:12:24 »
Quote from: opportunity on 16/06/2018 13:56:15
When you're doing pot, time relative to yourself is not slowing down, its speeding up, close to a dream-state, REM. The rest of the world though is awake on a different speed of time-analysis. You're picturing things faster, more intense, but thats not how humanity is travelling, right?

In medical situations, pot can be ok to drive up the thought process, yet for a normal human it could entain a lot of thought that is baseless in a future context, right?



Ok, I speed up in time so the world stops moving and everything around me is slowed down . So I see things faster than everyone else but only because I understand science as well.

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yet for a normal human it could entain a lot of thought that is baseless in a future context, right?

For somebody who is less clever , they might perceive they are ill and delusional, especially if they do not understand sciences such as psychology and physics.  The thing is my specific ''space out'' is focused on goals always , so I am not space out per se, I am concentrating really hard and why I concentrate my mind does not want to be disturbed because that breaks my concentration of deep deep thought where I couldn't reach if I was ''sober''. Well maybe not, I am still clued up when ''sober'' but I do consider myself ''special'', not in a narcissism way either, there is people with more knowledge than me. probably not the same ability to use this knowledge though.

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Re: Is there a better example of how drug-use can alter a persons grip on reality?
« Reply #70 on: 16/06/2018 14:19:17 »
And, on this stuff, is there a goal? Or is it just pre-wired? Do you know what to expect, is it unexpected, does it depend on a ski-slope, a volcano, what, right?

Some quick event?
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And, on this stuff, is there a goal? Or is it just pre-wired? Do you know what to expect, is it unexpected, does it depend on a ski-slope, a volcano, what, right?
My goals are to look for the unexpected , find answers, a survival instinct.   A primate instinct to try and use my best abilities to achieve whatever is necessarily to secure that future of my children's survival in a concrete jungle.
I don't think I will ever be surprised by discovery , we are evolving after all.

Some quick event?

Well, death can be anytime, I don't want go, it can be a quick event, how much time is there ?  You know a life can end anytime .  So how long do I have to make my goals?  Yes in desperation ,racing time, that drives me.
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« Reply #72 on: 16/06/2018 16:17:41 »
Not looking for life, just dealing with it?
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« Reply #73 on: 16/06/2018 16:30:14 »
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Not looking for life, just dealing with it?

Looking for life and looking to dealing with my life situation.  You know painting and decorating I like, but that is just not really me.   Anyone can paint and decorator , it may not be my quality of work but so what they tried and can pat themselves on the back for the effort .  So  where is my purpose in life ? What is my purpose ?     My purpose is to look after my children the best I can and try to better their future.  It would be nice to watch them grow up , get married and settle down.  But life does not give this guarantee. I need a job plain and simple really and home is where ever my heart is , which is my immediate family and not a place.
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