[alexanderbenjamin (OP)]

Greetings again.

The other thread Ive started just got real messy real quick. Where water
comes from. And maybe trying the whole pie at once was just to much.
So i'm going to try just one subject, bread crumbs if you will.

And maybe that 10th grade education, shouldnt matter really. I did get my
education and went on to dell server support in 2000 working the night shift
backbone support on raid and server systems. I also program, taught myself without
a book in python 32 in 2004/5. Can google pasteaway (all one word) that I wrote for
my x who is a sql programer. IS stil works today and is coded well into the
windows clipboard and is very nifty for writing web sql. To register it just make a
file called registered.txt and put it in its working install directory. It Just checks
for the existence of the file. It can be blank.

Also allow me to apologize for getting mad/upset. I know my post was to much and I took
it for granted that everyones knowledge may not be equal or more to my own. Please forgive me.
I would like to start again. Im not a quiter.

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Instead of talking about Geothermal gradient Ive realized that is really not the term
I should be Using as it referes to the earth even though it can be applied to other planetary
Bodies. It not correct to be used. So i will introduce a new term and possibly a new field into science.
As there is nothing to loose only gain right?

This is just theory and I would thank everyone in advance.

Gravitational Gradient - As this is a new idea its unknown. First lets just see, with your help
if its possible to even exist. Of course me I think it does.

The starter information would be Geothermal Gradient and you can find that on wiki.

Our Sun

The sun, the center of our solar system. It is said that its mostly composed of hydrogen and
some other gases. This is what science says about it. I have somewhat of a different theory.
We do know  that it produces solar wind, heat and light.

1.
I would think that if the sun was totaly hydrogen or composed of it, It would be hard to keep
our planets in orbit as the atomic weight of hydrogen is only 1. I do not believe thats enough
atomic weight to support that kind of gravitational pull. Thoughts?

1a
I do think that the sun is solid matter, and that the decay of that matter through gravitaional
gradient is producing that gas. It seems to have been producing hydrogen for a long long time.
It also produces other gasses. And the light atomic weight of those gases are all thats able to
escape the massive gravitational pull of the sun. I would also think the sun does have an atmosphere
of these light gasses and as the solid matter decays into gas it fills up. Finally escaping into solar wind.

1b
As a common sense persepctive, the lava flows on our own planet (i believe produced by geothermal gradient)
also produce gas as the decaying (burning) matter breaks down. The breakdown of solid matter into gas.
Or even a simple campfire that burns. Produces much the same things. Smoke(Gas) Heat and light.

2 Heat
I think its produced by the massive gravitaional pull of the solid matter, as the sun is the largest body
in our solar system it does produce heat.

3 Light
I think it has so much gravity that the solid matter is igniting as it burns/decays. Could it be fision or fusion?


Im going to stop right there. My other post just to much to wrap the mind around. So will start small.

Thanks again.
abn

[Bored chemist]

I took
it for granted that everyones knowledge may not be equal or more to my own.

It is unrealistic to think that we all have your level of understanding.
Some of us are professional scientists.

I would think that if the sun was totaly hydrogen or composed of it, It would be hard to keep
our planets in orbit as the atomic weight of hydrogen is only 1. I do not believe thats enough
atomic weight to support that kind of gravitational pull. Thoughts?

That's pretty much the same question as "which weighs more, a pound of feathers, or a pound of lead?"
Gravity doesn't care about what things are made of- gravitational attraction just depends on mass.
The gravitational effect of a single atom of 238 uranium is pretty much the same as the attraction of 238 atoms of hydrogen.

I do think that the sun is solid matter,

That makes no sense for a number of reasons- not least is that it's too hot for anything to be solid (or even liquid) and we can see that it is not solid from the motion of sunspots.

decay of that matter

Most matter simply doesn't decay at all.

the decay of that matter through gravitaional
gradient is producing that gas.

Why do you think this?
Why is it "better" to make up some magic solid which does something not seen by anything else or anywhere else, just to "explain" something when we already know that the explanation we have already works?

Heat
I think its produced by the massive gravitaional pull of the solid matter,

That would be a breach of the laws of thermodynamics.

So, on the whole, your idea is at odds with observations of things like sunspots, it needs some magic "solid" stuff that can't exist and it breaks the laws of physics.
And it does that to try to "explain" something that we already understand.

Why do you bother with this junk?

[alexanderbenjamin (OP)]

Well, I wouldn't call it junk. Sun actually looks like a big ball of lava to me. Reminds me of lava flows here on earth. Gives off gas, emits its own light and heat. Kinda fascinating stuff to me.
Thx for your reply.

[alexanderbenjamin (OP)]

Continuing, we back up to Earths definiton of geothermal gradient.
Which can again be found on wiki.

The distance to the center of the earth is 6536 km (3949 miles)from the north or south poles.
So from pole to pole its 13,072 km (through the center of the earth, 7898 miles)

-This is a paste of someone else info - Googled - Earths crust thickness
The crust of the Earth is of two distinctive types: Oceanic: 5 km (3 mi) to 10 km (6 mi) thick and composed primarily of denser, more mafic rocks, such as basalt, diabase, and gabbro. Continental: 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick and mostly composed of less dense, more felsic rocks, such as granite.

Were going to use the thickest number. 30 miles. But its much less in some areas.
Using those numbers. Double the 30 to 60. Then subtract 60 from 3949 Miles. Which comes to 3,889 miles. From the bottom of the crust to the bottom of the crust on the other side.
Now we divide 3,889 by 2 to obtain the bottom of earths crust to the center of our planet.
That number is 1,944.5 miles.

That being calculated by existing science of what we do know of our planet.
Thats 3,889 miles of magma/lava, molten earth.

I would submit to you, the science community and some of the greatest brains and intelligence on our planet. You naked scientists. Yes even Kryptid =) Though we knocked heads i still respect you and admire you sticking to your guns and what you believe to be right.

Even though mainstream science dictates that the earths core is cooling. I'm not saying that's wrong information, Im suggesting through science and observation that it is not entirely accurate Information.

I believe the earths core to stay molten, not a solid but also not a liquid. May I introduce to you the new field of gravitational gradient. The pressure of solid mass pushing in through gravitational pull. This pressure creates heat as we're talking alot of pressure and weight. So much pressure and heat generated through gradient of the mass above it.

We stay with the laws of science. All matter whether its a gas, liquid or solid has gravitaional pull due to its atomic weight.

I'm going to stop right there. as revealing the whole apple has not availed any fruit or lightbulbs.

Thank you

ABN

keep in mind Lava flows give off the same properties, It is hot, emits light and gas, even the same color though duller because its not as hot as the sun.