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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #20 on: 15/09/2018 23:52:43 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 13/09/2018 22:06:41
Quote from: Colin2B on 13/09/2018 08:47:36

Whirlpools have nothing to do with it as they can’t precess in the way a rigid gyroscope can.
The presented theory can be easily verified by the connection between the oxygen content and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.
Drawing on a map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
The higher the flow velocity, the greater the oxygen content and the lower the hydrogen sulfide content.
List of seas with low oxygen content:
Black Sea. East of the Mediterranean Sea. Gulf of Mexico.
Fjords of Norway.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_(ecology)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-dead-zones/
And what Colin says.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #21 on: 20/09/2018 12:05:29 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/09/2018 19:55:29
Nonsense.
Utter dross.
Ask any scientist who was around before your idea was put forward.
I can not ask any scientist, I do not have such opportunities, you ask, if you can not give an objective assessment
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #22 on: 21/09/2018 14:13:08 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 06/08/2018 13:21:25
Vertical movement of ocean waters

The waters of lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, while the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming giant whirlpools. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre

As you know, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, has the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.

If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, overturn, due to which the whirlpools precess, and as a result there is a vertical movement of oceanic waters. http://goo.gl/AM5g1s

The presented theory can be easily verified by the connection between the oxygen content and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.
Drawing on a map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
The higher the flow velocity, the greater the oxygen content and the lower the hydrogen sulfide content.

List of seas with low oxygen content:
Black Sea. East of the Mediterranean Sea. Gulf of Mexico.
Fjords of Norway.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_(ecology)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-dead-zones/
Please show me the region, the sea, the lake, the ocean, where the flow moves fast, and a high content of hydrogen sulphide.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #23 on: 21/09/2018 14:24:39 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/09/2018 12:05:29
I can not ask any scientist, I do not have such opportunities, you ask, if you can not give an objective assessment
It was a rhetorical question.Your assertion that
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 11/09/2018 19:38:47
Who does not understand this theory, he does not understand anything in science.
makes no sense.
There were scientists who lived + died before you put forward your idea.
And, because you had not put the idea forward, those scientists couldn't understand it- because it didn't exist.

So, if you ask any scientist who was around before your idea if they understood it, they will say that they didn't.
Yet they are scientists.
So your assertion is clearly false.


Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/09/2018 14:13:08
Please show me the region, the sea, the lake, the ocean, where the flow moves fast, and a high content of hydrogen sulphide.
OK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent

Did you think it was going to be difficult?
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #24 on: 23/09/2018 09:13:41 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/09/2018 14:13:08
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 06/08/2018 13:21:25
Vertical movement of ocean waters

The waters of lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, while the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming giant whirlpools. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre

As you know, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, has the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.

If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, overturn, due to which the whirlpools precess, and as a result there is a vertical movement of oceanic waters. http://goo.gl/AM5g1s

The presented theory can be easily verified by the connection between the oxygen content and the rotation speed of the whirlpools.
Drawing on a map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
The higher the flow velocity, the greater the oxygen content and the lower the hydrogen sulfide content.

List of seas with low oxygen content:
Black Sea. East of the Mediterranean Sea. Gulf of Mexico.
Fjords of Norway.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_(ecology)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-dead-zones/
Please show me the region, the sea, the lake, the ocean, where the flow moves fast, and a high content of hydrogen sulphide.
You say that there are cracks in these seas, and hydrogen sulfide comes out from there.
You have a link.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #25 on: 23/09/2018 10:23:53 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 23/09/2018 09:13:41
You say that there are cracks in these seas, and hydrogen sulfide comes out from there.
You have a link.

Yes, that's right. I have evidence.
And since water comes out of those vents, I have fast moving seawater laden with H2S.

Do you remember asking for it?

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Please show me the region, the sea, the lake, the ocean, where the flow moves fast, and a high content of hydrogen sulphide.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #26 on: 01/12/2018 22:01:27 »
The intermixing wind waves enrich the water with oxygen only to a depth of several tens of meters of the surface of the seas and oceans, and the whirlpools deliver the water enriched with oxygen to a depth of more than 10 km. (Mariana Trench).
As we see, whirlpools are involved not only in the horizontal circulation of the waters of the seas and oceans, but also in the vertical.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #27 on: 01/12/2018 22:03:40 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 01/12/2018 22:01:27
As we see,
It may be that only you see this.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #28 on: 02/12/2018 00:29:14 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 01/12/2018 22:01:27
.....the whirlpools deliver the water enriched with oxygen to a depth of more than 10 km. (Mariana Trench).
As we see, whirlpools are involved not only in the horizontal circulation of the waters of the seas and oceans, but also in the vertical.
Measurements of currents in the Challenger Deep (in the Mariana Trench) recorded zero for 37.5% of the time, the maximum current at the deepest layer of 10890 m was 8.1 cm/s (0.29km/hr). The mean flow at 7009 m depth at the northern station was 0.7 cm/s (0.025km/hr) and that at 6615 m depth at the southern station was 0.5 cm/s (0.018km/hr).
Not exactly currents that would make significant - if any - ocean mixing!
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #29 on: 02/12/2018 09:48:25 »
Would someone like to verify that the people voting in favour of this idea are not actually sock puppets.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #30 on: 03/12/2018 04:20:06 »
All of these theories are easy to test with hydrocollider. Hydrocollider - half-filled vessel with a rotating liquid (bucket, glass, bottle, mixer).
If the liquid rotates in the right, then the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #31 on: 03/12/2018 20:32:52 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/12/2018 04:20:06
All of these theories are easy to test with hydrocollider. Hydrocollider - half-filled vessel with a rotating liquid (bucket, glass, bottle, mixer).
Feel free to do so.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #32 on: 03/12/2018 20:45:31 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/12/2018 04:20:06
All of these theories are easy to test with hydrocollider. Hydrocollider - half-filled vessel with a rotating liquid (bucket, glass, bottle, mixer).
If the liquid rotates in the right, then the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left.
Would you care to specify precisely what theory it will 'prove' and how? In particular, what data you get out of this and how it relates to the model you are proposing.
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #33 on: 22/12/2018 13:41:53 »
The coefficient of oxygen content can be expressed mathematically by the following formula O = V / G
V - whirlpool rotation speed, km / h.
G - depth of the reservoir, km.
Black Sea 0.2 / 1200 = 0.00016
Sea of Okhotsk 1/800 = 0.0012
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #34 on: 22/12/2018 18:15:35 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 22/12/2018 13:41:53
The oxygen content can be determined by the following formula
O = V / G
V is the rotational speed of the whirlpool.
G - depth of the reservoir.
Why do you persist in posting this idiotic nonsense?
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #35 on: 07/01/2019 22:25:40 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 03/12/2018 04:20:06
Vertical movement of ocean waters can be convincingly modeled using simple experience.
For this, a half-filled vessel with rotating liquid (bucket, tumbler, mixer) must be rotated around itself (in orbit).
If the liquid in the bucket rotates to the right, the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left.

This is a super experience!
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Re: Whirlpool theory of ocean deadzones?
« Reply #36 on: 10/03/2019 10:41:21 »
Quote from: opportunity on 13/09/2018 11:17:47
How is the presented theory useful to humanity? I suggested something in a previous post, yet that seems to have been ignored.
The origin of the hydrogen sulfide of the Black Sea. http://bourabai.ru/articles/black_sea.htm

Often hydrogen sulphide is held not only at depth, but also off the coast, where vertical convection and oxygen supply to water are disturbed. At the same time, even at depths of about 40 m, there may be frozen, oxygen-free water masses, sometimes floating to the surface, where they are quickly saturated with oxygen, the hydrogen sulfide in them oxidizes and disappears.
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Re: The mechanism of thermoregulation of the planet Earth
« Reply #37 on: 23/08/2019 21:40:11 »
In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
To date, there are quite a lot of theories and hypotheses that rely on tidal power.
And the tidal force must be removed from celestial mechanics and then everything will fall into place.
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Re: The mechanism of thermoregulation of the planet Earth
« Reply #38 on: 24/08/2019 01:09:28 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 23/08/2019 21:40:11
it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
There is a credible alternative viewpoint
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Canute_and_the_tide
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Re: The mechanism of thermoregulation of the planet Earth
« Reply #39 on: 24/08/2019 14:23:58 »
Our planet is a form of life in the universe.
And any organism, including the Earth, has a thermoregulation mechanism, the purpose of which is to maintain optimal temperature.
The possibilities of the Earth's thermoregulation mechanism are not unlimited and are designed only for natural fires.
At the same time, we have been burning oil and gas for hundreds of millions of tons for centuries, and the Earth’s thermoregulation mechanism cannot withstand the load.
In addition, we really do not know what heat is!
We do not fully know what chemical elements emit oil and gas during combustion, but this is the main danger.

Several thousand tons of oil and gas from the bowels annually fall to the Earth’s surface in a natural way, and this is considered natural and harmonious, and it calms many.
Indeed, several thousand tons per year is normal and harmonious, but not hundreds of millions of tons per year.

Non-cyclic natural changes in temperature periodically occur on Earth due to a change in the direction of movement of large ocean currents.
At the same time, the average temperature and chemical composition of the planet do not change.
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