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Nothingness; No space, no time, no energy, and no potential for any space, time or energy.

It is an impossibility  to have no initial space unless you are declaring an infinite solid which would also be nonsense.

Please respond   

Physical fact :  An event can not happen if there is no initial space to happen in. 


Defining Nothingness :  An infinite volume of space that contains no thing. 

Defining a point :  A geometrical point of nothingness.

Defining no thing : 0 dimensions of matter

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Nothingness; No space, no time, no energy, and no potential for any space, time or energy.

It is an impossibility  to have no initial space unless you are declaring an infinite solid which would also be nonsense.

Please respond   

Physical fact :  An event can not happen if there is no initial space to happen in. 


Defining Nothingness :  An infinite volume of space that contains no thing. 

Defining a point :  A geometrical point of nothingness.

Defining no thing : 0 dimensions of matter

I know it is logical to say "no space" is impossible, and it does not mean that a solid is the opposite of space. A solid would occupy space, and in order for a solid to occupy space, there must be space, right?

It is true that an event can't happen without space, and one of the sayings I like to use is that space is where things happen.

It is possible to use your definition of Nothingness:  An infinite volume of space that contains no thing. However, it is not universally accepted that space itself is nothing; some would say empty space is something, so if there is space, they would say you don't have nothingness. Further, if you give an inch and allow empty space to be nothing, people will take a mile.They might say that if there is space, then you have a potential for the spontaneous generation of positive and negative energy out of empty space as long as the two would net out to zero energy.That kind of mental exercise is why I wrote the definition as aggressively as I could to make it impossible for something from nothing to occur.

I don't particularly like your definition of a point but no offense. I prefer the definition that says a point has location but no dimension.

And zero dimensions of matter is vague, but to me it would mean no matter.


You must have seen my post over in the Cosmology section. It was just luck that I found this thread in a DuckDuckGo search. You can PM me if you want my attention out here in New Theories and I don't shown up.

 

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some would say empty space is something, so if there is space, they would say you don't have nothingness.

Indeed, I also declare space is something,  a n-dimensional volume of nothingness.  Nothingness been made of no thing. 

I prefer the definition that says a point has location but no dimension.

That says the same thing as a geometrical point made out of nothingness. I consider a point is automatically 0 dimensions, but I accept that it may be a bit confusing and maybe keeping a point at just 0 dimensions is less confusing. 

make it impossible for something from nothing to occur.

I understand you consider the always existed scenario, but I consider the some thing from nothingness scenario, being different than some thing from nothing , 0 dimensions. 

It is possible to use your definition of Nothingness:  An infinite volume of space that contains no thing.

I mainly wanted to compare our views on this, I am glad you can ''see'' my version of nothingness .  I ''feel'' it is more viable than 0 dimension nothing,  my main reason  is that nothingness space cannot be created or destroyed. 

Thanks for the reply.