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The difference between us seems to be that you are convinced there is, must be or should be a universal goal to which all actions should be directed, but I evaluate every action in terms of its first or second order effect on other living things i.e. the living environment "as is".
But you are presuming that a universal morality could or should exist, and that whatever you determine the goal to be, should be equally and totally acceptable to every living or dead thing that ever existed. That's a fine Buddhist attitude, but nothing that would please a malaria parasite, would please me.
Imagine that you are an AGI that exists thousands of years from now. Between human and mosquito, which one do you think is most likely to bring you into existence?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 04/04/2021 09:15:37Imagine that you are an AGI that exists thousands of years from now. Between human and mosquito, which one do you think is most likely to bring you into existence?Which one gave birth to Pol Pot, or voted for Donald Trump?
Cosmically, the extinction of humanity is of no consequence.
Cosmically, the extinction of humanity is of no consequence. Complex water-based organic chemistry is rare in the universe but other species have come and gone, and mosquitoes have been around a lot longer than homo sapiens.
The question is whether you would have liked to live in Cambodia under Pol Pot, or Trump's USA, or whether you would have suggested your nearest and dearest would have enjoyed the experience. If not, then they were immoral.
This is possibly because humans, on Earth, are the first intelligent species in the entire Universe.
You don't mind if humanity goes extinct, but complain about a few people cause death of some others.
What are the consequences for someone whom you think is immoral?
Quote from: charles1948 on 05/04/2021 21:35:57This is possibly because humans, on Earth, are the first intelligent species in the entire Universe.On the contrary, by overpopulation, extermination of other species, and toxification of the environment, we may be the last intelligent species.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 05/04/2021 23:07:24 You don't mind if humanity goes extinct, but complain about a few people cause death of some others.There's a difference between alive and dead.What happens after my death is of no significance to me. I would prefer it if my descendants had a happy life and died peacefully, but whether they exist at all is of no consequence to even our nearest neighbors on Mars, let alone the rest of the universe. Meanwhile, as part of the way I think and act whilst alive, I object to parasites of any species causing the death of other humans.
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