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How did you get those numbers?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 16/04/2023 03:27:45How did you get those numbers?You want to get there from here, because this is not a good place (why else?). At any junction you can turn left or right. If you always turn left (prejudice) you will at best get back to where you started. If you toss a coin at each stage (random choice) you will make gradual progress, at least away from here and possibly towards something better.
Sam Harris explains his view of Ethics to Jordan Peterson
Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 2Moderated by Bret Weinstein 06/24/2018This is the second time Sam & Jordan appeared live together on stage. This event took place at the Orpheum Theatre in Vancouver BC Canada on June 24th 2018 in front of a sold out audience of 3000 people. The event was produced by Pangburn Philosophy.
For a couple of millenia in the West we have judged people and their actions by the standards of good and evil. But, from Mother Theresa to Winston Churchill the notion that an individual is simply good is hard to sustain. Almost all claim to be good. Even the Nazis believed they were on a moral crusade against the evils of corruption and deceit, managing to enlist the Catholic church in support. And, from the Crusades to 9/11, seeing oneself and one's cause as good has a habit of intensifying dispute and conflict.Should we conclude that dividing the world into good and bad is not just misguided but actually dangerous? Should we adopt a Roman approach to human qualities and actions where kindness and brutality could both be valued in the same one individual? Or is the distinction between good and bad essential to social well being, public order, and individual growth?
If you have to make correct decisions 10 times in a row, then your chance to survive by doing it randomly is less than 0.1%
Very few decisions are life and death.
The APE model explores how we experience goal-oriented decision making. This includes the role of motivation and the experience of decision making in terms of how we assess, plan, and execute. The model also discusses how experience influences the use of intuition and deliberation. The foundations of the model as well as the concept of goal-oriented decision making, was derived from research on goal theory, naturalistic decision making, and social cognitive theory.
Subconscious decisions and executions which are crucial for survival like breathing, eating, sleeping are often taken into granted.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 18/04/2023 17:13:51Subconscious decisions and executions which are crucial for survival like breathing, eating, sleeping are often taken into granted.Because two of them aren't decisions but firmware responses.
Not just the number but the nature of the layers. You will eventually sleep, however much you want to stay awake. There are two distinct layers to breathing, and whilst you have some voluntary control of the process, it is not possible to kill yourself by refusing to breathe (not the same as strangulation or drowning, but just deciding to hold your breath). But you can starve yourself to death - eating is not an autonomic reflex.
Reflexes can be trained, such as in martial arts, riding bikes, swimming, or playing musical instruments.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 25/04/2023 06:29:57Reflexes can be trained, such as in martial arts, riding bikes, swimming, or playing musical instruments. Not quite. Training in these activities is about converting a conscious decision, that goes through a process of analysis and searching recall of "what to do next", into an unconscious one that makes a direct association between stimulus and response, but it isn't an autonomic reflex. If you have learned multiplication tables or how to drive a manual-gearbox car, you have almost certainly acquired unconscious responses, but autonomic responses are the ones you were born with and keep you alive when you are asleep.
What's your point?
to distinguish between an autonomic or reflex response and a learned unconscious action. The distinction is life-critical.
What would be the problem? The fact that nobody knows how to do it. Lack of an autonomic function such as respiration or heartbeat usually leads to death within a few minutes. You can use a ventilator, cardiac massage, or whatever, but even if you could learn to breathe subconsciously, you would die as soon as you fell asleep.
Been there a couple of times. Prefer to get them started. Lack of pulse is rare, but there are neonatal defibs. A whiff of CO2 usually triggers autonomic respiration.