[alancalverd]

It's friendly fire if both sides were armed.

Nonsense. It can happen in the absence of any opposition. And even if your definition were valid, Hamas is armed.

intentional targeting of civilians

Without concrete evidence, assertion of intent is proof of prejudice. 

Many countries disagree with your conclusion

Really? Many politicians pretend to, because that's where the votes are (there are more antisemites than semites in the world) but how does a "country" express an opinion?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Without concrete evidence, assertion of intent is proof of prejudice. 

What counts as concrete evidence?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

When Republican Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee was pressed about his support for Israel?s genocide in Gaza, he revealed his true feelings? and it?s not pretty. We?ll talk about his unforgivable comments in this video and recommend action that can be taken to hold politicians like this accountable.

[alancalverd]

What counts as concrete evidence?

A written political manifesto or military order may be considered evidence of intent. So far the only published evidence of genocidal intent  is the manifesto of Hamas.

Successive British governments have funded the development and maintenance of strategic nuclear weapons whose deployment would cause millions of civilian casualties and the destruction of civil infrastructure. Is that genocidal intent, or the acceptance of inevitable collateral damage in the pursuit of a legitimate military objective?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

What counts as concrete evidence?

A written political manifesto or military order may be considered evidence of intent. So far the only published evidence of genocidal intent  is the manifesto of Hamas.

Successive British governments have funded the development and maintenance of strategic nuclear weapons whose deployment would cause millions of civilian casualties and the destruction of civil infrastructure. Is that genocidal intent, or the acceptance of inevitable collateral damage in the pursuit of a legitimate military objective?

As I said, actions speak louder than words. How many civilian casualties are caused by British nuclear weapon?

[alancalverd]

A 1 MT bomb is intended to kill about 200-500,000 civilians within 30 days, with probably the same number of later deaths attributable to the disruption of infrastructure and civil order.

The number of civilian deaths from a single day's single-target operation in WWII varied from around 20,000 (Hamburg) to 150,000 (Hiroshima).

It is a sad fact that nowadays you need to kill a lot of civilians in order to eradicate the filth that hides among them. But if you don't, an awful lot of innocent people will die on the Good Side (some 20,000,000 in the Soviet Union alone, between 1941 and 1945).

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The problem is, every one thinks they are on the good side. It can only be solved by discovering a universal method to determine the real good side.

[alancalverd]

One method is to ask whether I would do it to myself or my nearest and dearest.

Declaring your objective as elimination of an entire population of 7,000,000 people because of what you think they pray to, and progressing that policy with indiscriminate rocket attacks, torture, rape, murder and hostage-taking, might not pass that test of goodness.

In general, one might conclude that proclaiming genocidal intent as a political manifesto, and invading another state to advance that cause, are characteristics of badness. 

Hiding amongst your nearest and dearest in order to avoid retribution is cowardice at best, and a war crime at worst. Difficult to consider that as the action of a good person.

In the absence of a universal moral code, it's a good idea to stick to the simple one you learned at school: the aggressor is wrong, and hot pursuit of the aggressor is a pragmatic method of reducing the problem. Civilians have a miserable choice: if you don't become part of the solution, you may become a collateral casualty of it.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

One method is to ask whether I would do it to myself or my nearest and dearest.

As I've said before, people have different thresholds for selfishness and altruism. Some even willing to sacrifice self and their own family for the greater good of their tribe or nation.
 

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

In the absence of a universal moral code, it's a good idea to stick to the simple one you learned at school: the aggressor is wrong, and hot pursuit of the aggressor is a pragmatic method of reducing the problem. Civilians have a miserable choice: if you don't become part of the solution, you may become a collateral casualty of it.

We can't force conscious agents to think through beyond their thinking capacities. Those with higher level of consciousness should teach their simpler minded comrades, just like bigger LLMs are training smaller LLMs.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Lives and deaths of millions people are not laughing matters, but here we are.

Jon Stewart on Israel - Palestine | The Daily Show

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

With great power, comes great responsibility. It should only be handed over to those with adequate level of consciousness.

Supreme Court Ethics: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

John Oliver discusses the Supreme Court, the ethically questionable gifts some of the justices receive, and an offer for Clarence Thomas that could ruin John?s life. Genuinely. You?ll see.

[alancalverd]

Some even willing to sacrifice self and their own family for the greater good of their tribe or nation.

I would never discourage anyone from sacrificing himself. I will happily kill anyone who wants to sacrifice me, or indeed anyone else. There's a big difference.

To quote General Patton: "No goddam sonofabitch ever won a war by dying for his country. You win a war by making your enemy die for his country."

[Zer0]

Those WW1 & WW2 Veterans were prolly made of Something entirely Different.

All i see around now are SnowFlakes!
Turn up the heat just a lil, n they instantly have a meltdown.

lol

[alancalverd]

Oh dear. Snowflake is a trigger word that can cause stress and mental health problems. I think you are asserting an unwarranted privilege and should be cancelled for actually stating an opinion based on observable fact, and abusing persons unknown through social media hate. If I fail my exams I will hold you responsible for the smoking wreckage. 

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

I will happily kill anyone who wants to sacrifice me, or indeed anyone else.

It might be how people who are taken as hostages or POW feel.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

To quote General Patton: "No goddam sonofabitch ever won a war by dying for his country. You win a war by making your enemy die for his country."

Those who won a war are likely take the benefits from their comrades who sacrificed themselves for them.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

With great power, comes great responsibility. It should only be handed over to those with adequate level of consciousness.

Highly conscious agents can think through the consequences of their actions and align them with their goal. Babies, toddlers, kids, young adults, adults, wise persons; the list shows increasing level of consciousness. From seconds to centuries of planned actions capabilities. From individual outcomes to widespread impacts on society.
Huge power comes with the position of a supreme Court Justice should or national leaders should not be given to those with consciousness level below average adults.

[alancalverd]

Those who won a war are likely take the benefits from their comrades who sacrificed themselves for them.

There is very little evidence of benefit accruing to anyone who has fought in a modern war. Only the politicians and military equipment suppliers benefit, and they don't fight or sacrifice anything. Halliburton and Raytheon shareholders profited mightily from the invasion of Iraq but very few of them have ever visited the place. Thousands of Russians will die in Ukraine and Putin will be re-elected. Massive quantities of ammunition will be supplied to Hamas as soon as there is cease-fire, but no combatant on either side will be resurrected from the dead or be given any land for his efforts.

[alancalverd]

Babies, toddlers, kids, young adults, adults, wise persons; the list shows increasing level of consciousness.

....and mendacity.

Huge power comes with the position of a supreme Court Justice

....who has been given the post by the criminal and unaccountable President.