[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

There is very little evidence of benefit accruing to anyone who has fought in a modern war.

Private Ryan survived because someone else made sacrifice for him.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

A lot of immoral behaviors are closely related to greed. Theft, scams, gamblings, robbery, corruption, conquests, colonialism, genocides, slavery, kidnappings, assassinations.
 Thus, preventing them  needs a better understanding of greed, how to define it, how it has evolved, its costs and benefits to individuals and society, is there a case where greed is good.

[alancalverd]

Private Ryan survived because someone else made sacrifice for him.

But was he any better off at the end of the war than at the beginning? Survival is not profit.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Private Ryan survived because someone else made sacrifice for him.

But was he any better off at the end of the war than at the beginning? Survival is not profit.

Yes.
Some people are willing to pay for better chance to survive.

[alancalverd]

So war is all about extracting bribes from the invaded population. Not what most people think.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

So war is all about extracting bribes from the invaded population. Not what most people think.

Some wars involved genocides, which means no bribe can be extracted; just looting.
Some others doesn't seem to involve money, like Trojan war which was fought over a female.
Nonetheless, they are still related to greed.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Oxford Dictionary defines greed as

intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.

While according to Merriam-Webster, it's

selfish desire for food, money, or possessions over and above one's needs.

They both mention selfishness. But it needs not to be individualistic. They can also be collective, like corporate greed, tribal/racial/national greed. Some even mentioned government greed and species greed.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

above one's needs.

The needs also have to be clarified.
To survive for the next hours, I don't need food nor water. For the next minute, I don't even need air.

[alancalverd]

Some wars involved genocides, which means no bribe can be extracted; just looting.
Some others doesn't seem to involve money, like Trojan war which was fought over a female.
Nonetheless, they are still related to greed.

But whatever the cause and however the objective was pursued, the actual combatants were lucky even to receive a pension, never mind riches/concubines/whatever. The profits of war always accrue to politicians and their friends, never to the soldiers.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The profits of war always accrue to politicians and their friends, never to the soldiers.

Never say never. The soldiers can steal or loot from their enemies or civilians without telling their commanders.

[alancalverd]

Name any combatant who was substantially better off after a war than he would have been if there had been no war. Out of the 80 - 90 million men who fought in WWII, how many were able to retire on the fortune they amassed?

More recently, Halliburton's profits and share price rose substantially thanks to the invasion of Iraq. How much of that money found its way into the pockets of the fighters?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Greed & Fraud: The Trouble With Corporate America | Real Stories Full-length Documentary

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Name any combatant who was substantially better off after a war than he would have been if there had been no war. Out of the 80 - 90 million men who fought in WWII, how many were able to retire on the fortune they amassed?

More recently, Halliburton's profits and share price rose substantially thanks to the invasion of Iraq. How much of that money found its way into the pockets of the fighters?

Since the stealing and looting are illegal in their homeland, as well as anywhere else, I guess they just want to keep silent.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Corporate Greed Is Killing American Drivers

Lawsuits are piling up against Trinity Industries, a company that makes highway guardrails that are killing American drivers.

[alancalverd]

Since the stealing and looting are illegal in their homeland, as well as anywhere else, I guess they just want to keep silent.

Space is limited on troop transports, and the military police, at least in civilised countries, take a dim view of looting at source. So how did Joe or Tommy, or even Ivan (in the days when the Red Army was fighting for a just cause)  manage to hide the car he stole and bring it back home? And was it worth the loss of a leg and a brother?  The "spoils of war" rarely amount to much more than syphilis and malaria.

[alancalverd]

Corporate Greed Is Killing American Drivers
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Lawsuits are piling up against Trinity Industries, a company that makes highway guardrails that are killing American drivers.

I wouldn't blame corporate greed in the UK (though I have no doubt that a Minister's brother makes money from every change in legislation)  so much as European stupidity in replacing hedges and gravel with steel barriers on British highways.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

From 2009 to 2013 the communication channels the CIA uses to contact assets in foreign countries was compromised. This had terrifying consequences.

People are generally more willing to do immoral actions when they don't closely observe the negative impacts of their actions.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Since the stealing and looting are illegal in their homeland, as well as anywhere else, I guess they just want to keep silent.

Space is limited on troop transports, and the military police, at least in civilised countries, take a dim view of looting at source. So how did Joe or Tommy, or even Ivan (in the days when the Red Army was fighting for a just cause)  manage to hide the car he stole and bring it back home? And was it worth the loss of a leg and a brother?  The "spoils of war" rarely amount to much more than syphilis and malaria.

Rare is not never.
Nowadays economic value can be concentrated in a small space. Flashdisk containing Bitcoin private key is an example.
Traditionally, diamond can store quite high value to weight ratio.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Corporate Greed Is Killing American Drivers
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Lawsuits are piling up against Trinity Industries, a company that makes highway guardrails that are killing American drivers.

I wouldn't blame corporate greed in the UK (though I have no doubt that a Minister's brother makes money from every change in legislation)  so much as European stupidity in replacing hedges and gravel with steel barriers on British highways.

Sometimes there's only thin difference between stupidity and immorality.
If they can cut costs without sacrificing safety, they will be seen as engineering geniuses. The phrase "No part is the best part" can be heard more often nowadays.

[alancalverd]

Rare is not never.

Please name some soldiers who, returning from combat, are richer, happier, healthier, more sane, or less dead, than they would have been without going to war. Then subtract those who did not profit from the experience, and tell me whether war profits the combatants rather than the politicians who start it.