[seeker3 (OP)]

Suppose strong force is real force carried by gluon, if it is not negative charged, how can it attract positive charged protons to stick together? What is the mechanism? What is the logic?

Why strong force has short range? What kind force is that?

[Kryptid]

Suppose strong force is real force carried by gluon, if it is not negative charged, how can it attract positive charged protons to stick together?

Because it isn't acting on the positive electric charge of the proton, it's acting on the color charge of the quarks inside the proton.

Why strong force has short range?

Because the mesons that carry the strong force are unstable. They decay in a tiny fraction of a second, so they can't reach particles that are very far away.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Word puzzle again?

[seeker3 (OP)]

The Standard Model

Before we understand atoms, how can we learn the universe? If the standard model is wrong, the fundamental science will be wrong.

The standard model is recognized by nearly all particle physicists as wrong in the sense that it is incomplete and only correct in a phenomenological sense.

When scientists give up and call things the strong force, weak force, up, down, bottom, top, strange and charm, it says all.

Scientists think 1 electron and 1 proton able to form a hydrogen atom. That is impossible.

The 2 particles attract each other with the strongest attraction force in nature F=Ke x pe/R^2. The attraction force between electron and proton is 10^33 times stronger than 2 neodymium magnets. What force can separate proton and electron?

Therefore they must stick together under that force. The electron is impossible to orbit, wave or cloud around the proton to form a stable atom.

Scientists invented a force called strong force, it holds protons together. They forgot to invent another force, that keeps electron away from proton, so atoms able to form. Why protons stick together but electron and proton don't stick together?

They invented uncertainty principle, wave-particle duality, wave function collapse, electron shell, orbital, quantum state, energy level, electron hole, electron cloud. All imaginary, made up word puzzles that have nothing to do with reality.     

The standard model is like a monkey story.

So sad. You got to follow that story to get a degree. You got to teach that story to become a teacher.

[Bored chemist]

Word puzzle again?

No, it's not a puzzle.
If you understood the physics which you are saying is wrong, then you would know what that all meant.

The problem is that you have not learned what you are talking about.
Now, perhaps you would like to answer the question I posed earlier.

What you said was new and different.
If it had been right, do you not think that many of them would have replied?

[seeker3 (OP)]

Suppose strong force is real force carried by gluon, if it is not negative charged, how can it attract positive charged protons to stick together?

Because it isn't acting on the positive electric charge of the proton, it's acting on the color charge of the quarks inside the proton.

Why strong force has short range?

Because the mesons that carry the strong force are unstable. They decay in a tiny fraction of a second, so they can't reach particles that are very far away.

What is color charge? Positive or negative? How color charge interact with real charge? Mechanism?

If strong force decays in a fraction of a second, what force makes protons stick together?

[Bored chemist]

What is color charge?

If you understood the physics which you are saying is wrong, then you would know what that all meant.

The problem is that you have not learned what you are talking about.

If strong force decays in a fraction of a second

Nobody said it did.
You need to learn to read properly, rather than just looking for things that you think are wrong.

What you said was new and different.
If it had been right, do you not think that many of them would have replied?

[Kryptid]

Word puzzle again?

You would do yourself a favor by actually doing some research before trying to debate about this. Particle physicists don't have any trouble understanding the concepts that I've been talking about.

What is color charge?

It's the charge associated with the strong force in the same way that electric charge is associated with the electromagnetic force.

Positive or negative?

Neither. Look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_charge

How color charge interact with real charge?

It doesn't. It only interacts with other color charges.

If strong force decays in a fraction of a second, what force makes protons stick together?

The strong force holds the protons together. Although the particles decay in a fraction of a second, new ones are continually being creating in the fields around the proton.

The Standard Model

Before we understand atoms, how can we learn the universe? If the standard model is wrong, the fundamental science will be wrong.

The standard model is recognized by nearly all particle physicists as wrong in the sense that it is incomplete and only correct in a phenomenological sense.

When scientists give up and call things the strong force, weak force, up, down, bottom, top, strange and charm, it says all.

Scientists think 1 electron and 1 proton able to form a hydrogen atom. That is impossible.

The 2 particles attract each other with the strongest attraction force in nature F=Ke x pe/R^2. The attraction force between electron and proton is 10^33 times stronger than 2 neodymium magnets. What force can separate proton and electron?

Therefore they must stick together under that force. The electron is impossible to orbit, wave or cloud around the proton to form a stable atom.

Scientists invented a force called strong force, it holds protons together. They forgot to invent another force, that keeps electron away from proton, so atoms able to form. Why protons stick together but electron and proton don't stick together?

They invented uncertainty principle, wave-particle duality, wave function collapse, electron shell, orbital, quantum state, energy level, electron hole, electron cloud. All imaginary, made up word puzzles that have nothing to do with reality.     

The standard model is like a monkey story.

So sad. You got to follow that story to get a degree. You got to teach that story to become a teacher.

You really need to stop it with these anti-science speeches.

[seeker3 (OP)]

The strong force holds the protons together. Although the particles decay in a fraction of a second, new ones are continually being creating in the fields around the proton.

What is the mechanism? Fart?

[Kryptid]

What is the mechanism? Fart?

You clearly aren't interested in learning, so I don't see why you bother to ask questions.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Run out of gas?

[seeker3 (OP)]

What is the speed of Coulomb's force?

No matter how far away, charged particles are connected by Coulomb's force, therefore entangled all the time.

Information teleport universally. Existence continues. 

[Bored chemist]

What is the speed of Coulomb's force?

C

[seeker3 (OP)]

Light/EM wave speed is the speed of energy propagate through matter/medium. There is no light in vacuum space.

Gravity, Coulomb's force, levity and magnetic force are always coexisting with matters. Therefore forces have no speed, forces are instantaneous.

Simple fact and logic, why most people cannot understand?

[Bored chemist]

There is no light in vacuum space.

There plainly is, or it wouldn't reach us from the Sun.

This is a "Simple fact and logic, "
why can't you understand it?

[Kryptid]

Light/EM wave speed is the speed of energy propagate through matter/medium.

No it isn't. Light travels more slowly through matter than it does in a vacuum and it varies depending on the index of refraction of the matter.

There is no light in vacuum space.

The only way you can support that assertion is by invoking a global conspiracy for which you have zero evidence. Therefore, there is no reason why we should take it seriously.

Gravity, Coulomb's force, levity and magnetic force are always coexisting with matters. Therefore forces have no speed, forces are instantaneous.

No they aren't. That would violate causality.

Simple fact and logic, why most people cannot understand?

Because it's neither fact nor logic. It's wrong.

[seeker3 (OP)]

500 professors and 1600 readers, only 2 people still think gravity has light speed? Good!

Sun light reaches us through repulsion force between electrons on the surface of Sun and earth, energy teleport between lines of sight electrons. That is the mechanism of radiation.

Your goal is to learn truth, not against.

[Bored chemist]

500 professors and 1600 readers, only 2 people still think gravity has light speed? Good!

500 professors, 1600 readers and only one person who thinks you are right.

[seeker3 (OP)]

Electrostatic force rules the universe. Charged particles made the universe.

1 electron and 1 proton cannot form a hydrogen atom. Simple fact.

Atoms are not 99.99% empty space, simple fact.

Forces have no speed, simple fact.

[Bored chemist]

1 electron and 1 proton cannot form a hydrogen atom. Simple fact.

You will have to do much better than
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion
to convince us.

Forces have no speed, simple fact.

It's fairly easy to set up an experiment to show that is wrong.