[alancalverd]

I haven't noticed any disruption in my industry.

[Zer0]

I haven't noticed any disruption in my industry.

If something isn't Unbreakable, given enough time, it will Break.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Many people imagine future AGI as a single individual entity. But I think they would be more like a society of AI agents with different roles and capabilities.

25 ChatGPT AIs Play A Game - So What Happened?
The paper "Generative Agents: Interactive Simulacra of Human Behavior" is available here:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03442

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Capitalism Doesn't Need Consumers | Economics Explained

After the launch of Chat-GPT and Dall-E, AI started to raise concerns for jobs and society. As machines and sophisticated technologies surpass human abilities, a growing number of complex jobs are being outsourced to machines who can do better work for a lower cost. This prompts questions about how economic systems can adapt to most people having a net negative economic value.

It's time to reconsider our assumptions about economy.

[alancalverd]

A computer gains nothing by doing anything. So a society run entirely by machines will not grow food since (a) the machines have no use for it and (b) machines have  no use for the humans that eat it. But people like food, so will grow it and trade it for other stuff that they like or need to use, and the machines will become irrelevant.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

A computer gains nothing by doing anything.

It may be the case if you are the computer designer. Someone else may  design it differently.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

So a society run entirely by machines will not grow food since (a) the machines have no use for it and (b) machines have  no use for the humans that eat it. But people like food, so will grow it and trade it for other stuff that they like or need to use, and the machines will become irrelevant.

Do you realize that growing food is just an instrumental goal? Humans' first mammalian ancestors didn't do it. Humans' descendants may find a better alternatives, such as synthesizing food from more basic chemicals and recycling waste.

[alancalverd]

growing food is just an instrumental goal? Humans' first mammalian ancestors didn't do it. Humans' descendants may find a better alternatives, such as synthesizing food from more basic chemicals and recycling waste.

How is that conceptually different from growing, other than being more complicated?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

growing food is just an instrumental goal? Humans' first mammalian ancestors didn't do it. Humans' descendants may find a better alternatives, such as synthesizing food from more basic chemicals and recycling waste.

How is that conceptually different from growing, other than being more complicated?

Growing food usually take longer time, needs more resources than what actually found in end products, hence wasteful and inefficient.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

What is money? How does it work? This is what the richest man thinks about it.

Money and monetary system are forms of virtual universe, to help managing resource allocations across time and space. In capitalistic economic systems, money acts as a voting mechanism to determine where common resources should be allocated to.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

From the perspective of future conscious entities, the only legitimate ways of accumulating resources are by riding the wave of demonetization. It means that the resource accumulation is meant to make generating necessary resources in the future easier.

For example, local government collects tax money and use it to build a road which helps the society to be more productive. To be sustainable, the benefits in the future should overcome the costs.

[alancalverd]

Growing food usually take longer time, needs more resources than what actually found in end products, hence wasteful and inefficient.

You can just chuck some seeds on the ground and wait. The process sequesters carbon from the atmosphere, stores energy from the sun, generates oxygen, prevents flash flooding, and stabilises the soil.You can feed the bits you don't eat to other animals and get milk, meat and eggs in return, use it for building material, or burn it to recycle the carbon. If you add plenty of poo and pee to the soil, the stuff grows even faster. And it makes the countryside look lovely (not the poo and pee, admittedly, but the leaves and flowers).

Why faff about with any other process? We have evolved to eat the stuff that grows naturally, so why not do so?   

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Growing food usually take longer time, needs more resources than what actually found in end products, hence wasteful and inefficient.

You can just chuck some seeds on the ground and wait. The process sequesters carbon from the atmosphere, stores energy from the sun, generates oxygen, prevents flash flooding, and stabilises the soil.You can feed the bits you don't eat to other animals and get milk, meat and eggs in return, use it for building material, or burn it to recycle the carbon. If you add plenty of poo and pee to the soil, the stuff grows even faster. And it makes the countryside look lovely (not the poo and pee, admittedly, but the leaves and flowers).

Why faff about with any other process? We have evolved to eat the stuff that grows naturally, so why not do so?   

Our ancestors survived by hunting and gathering. Why should they develop agriculture and undergo industrial revolutions?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

10 Reasons to Ignore AI Safety
Why do some ignore AI Safety? Let's look at 10 reasons people give (adapted from Stuart Russell's list).

[alancalverd]

Our ancestors survived by hunting and gathering. Why should they develop agriculture and undergo industrial revolutions?

You can still survive as a hunter-gatherer if the local population density is small and the environment can sustain it without significant intervention. Problem is that politics, greed and overpopulation are displacing those who know how.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Our ancestors survived by hunting and gathering. Why should they develop agriculture and undergo industrial revolutions?

You can still survive as a hunter-gatherer if the local population density is small and the environment can sustain it without significant intervention. Problem is that politics, greed and overpopulation are displacing those who know how.

What's important is to find and do any means necessary to sustain the existence of consciousness. Without organized efforts, the population will be taken over by individuals who can and will exploit them, as shown by simulations of game theory.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

GPT-4 hits the ceiling (Theory of Mind, Mensa, Asimov) - LifeArchitect.ai

9:45
now gpt4 is hitting the ceiling reaching a hundred percent accuracy when we step into two shot Chain of Thought and SS thinking so it's had a little tweak but it's outperforming humans in such a big way you've probably already seen this
chart gpt4 versus human tests I've popped theory of mind up the top there

there's also the biology USA by Olympiad semi-final exam in there in both cases gpt4 is outperforming the average human but in the case of theory of mind it's actually hit the ceiling and for the bio Olympiad it's very very close in terms of percentile to being impossible to compare with others

AI models have hit the ceiling of tests created by humans. They still have to take the ultimate test, which is passing the great filter.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

ChatGPT Creators Unveil Robot Revolution: Elon Musk's AI Masterpiece Incoming! | Pro Robots

The smart humanoids? race: Elon Musk will create his own advanced artificial intelligence for the Tesla Bot, and OpenAI will make a humanoid robot to incorporate the GPT-5 in it! Google's robots are getting smarter, China is developing robotaxi services at a breakneck pace, and the robots have been brought back to the NYPD after all. These and other high-tech news in one video!

00:00 In this video
00:31 Elon Musk will create AI and OpenAI will create robots
02:30 New robotaxi concept Didi
03:15 Yangwang Dancing U9 supercar
03:56 Cruise recalls 300 robotaxis
04:32 Cybertruck giant janitor
05:01 NYPD brings back robots
06:55 Disney unveils new robot
07:53 X-Sight Helmet Display
08:39 NASA to create Space ROS
09:03 Google teaches robots to sort waste
10:13 Digit failed SEALs
10:38 Ingenuity records
11:25 Sanctuary AI showed robots telecontrol system
11:58 Robots are taught human movements
12:25 KIMLAB Show

Access to I/O interface with the real world is necessary to automate learning of AI models, so they can learn causality from their own experiences. Otherwise, they will be like brains in the vat.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

I just found a great video about memories in neural networks

How are memories stored in neural networks? | The Hopfield Network

Can we measure memories in networks of neurons in bytes? Or should we think of our memory differently?

Time stamps:
0:00 - Where is your memory?
1:41 - Computer memory in a nutshell
2:58 - Modeling neural networks
4:42 - Memories in dynamical systems
9:54 - Learning
13:36 - Memory capacity and conclusion

Animations largely made using the manim community edition:
https://www.manim.community/

Original Paper on Hopfield Networks:
Hopfield, J. J. (1982). Neural networks and physical systems with emergent collective computational abilities. Proceedings of the national academy of sciences, 79(, 2554-2558.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Here's a prediction of fastest path towards AGI.

ChatGPT vs Tesla FSD: Who Gets to AGI FIRST?!

OpenAI's ChatGPT 3 and 4 have taken the world by storm, and have released a veritable flood of Large Language Models into the world! It seems ChatGPT is right at the cost of getting to Artificial General Intelligence, or AGI. But what about Tesla's FSD Beta in their cars and now in the Optimus Teslabot? Does inhabiting the world give it a leg up instead?