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What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« on: 14/12/2019 12:53:38 »
Dear Moonologists,


May I present to ewe Agatha Lunar-Tic McFillet-Mignon,



Agatha Lunar-Tic McFillet-Mignon literally just moments ago !!


She's attempting to be the the first bovine to orbit the Moon. 


Once she's in permanent orbit will she be A Moon Moo ?


If the Moon, did in fact have an orbiting satellite body , would it also be called a Moon ? ie. a Moon Moon ?


whajafink ?   ewe see. I don't know !!!




hugs and shmishes




mwah mwah mwah !!


Neil

The Cow jumped Over The Moon
It won't be back anytime real soon
Some will say It's a bovine Loon
Went up at six and back by noon




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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #1 on: 14/12/2019 13:20:52 »
It's called subsatellite.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsatellite
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #2 on: 14/12/2019 13:23:34 »
One  specific answer is that we call it the Moon.
The Earth is a "moon" of the Sun.
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #3 on: 14/12/2019 13:31:43 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 14/12/2019 13:20:52
It's called subsatellite.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsatellite



Thank Ewe for this.
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #4 on: 14/12/2019 13:33:02 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/12/2019 13:23:34
One  specific answer is that we call it the Moon.
The Earth is a "moon" of the Sun.


Thank Ewe BC. So, our "moon" is called "The Moon" is that it's name ? or does our Moon not have one ?
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #5 on: 14/12/2019 14:03:35 »
A moon is only a moon if it is spherical i believe, if not it is just a satelite, of which jupiter has lots and lots. If a noon had a moon it would have to be very big, or considered a binary pair as what  constitutes a satelite is  orbiting an orbiter.
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #6 on: 14/12/2019 14:13:23 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 14/12/2019 14:03:35
A moon is only a moon if it is spherical i believe, if not it is just a satelite, of which jupiter has lots and lots. If a noon had a moon it would have to be very big, or considered a binary pair as what  constitutes a satelite is  orbiting an orbiter.

Thank Ewe Petro,

So a moon may only be deemed a "moon" when it reaches a certain size ? and spherical ?   Do you think the size of a moon has to be proportionate to its mother planet  before it can be called a moon ?
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #7 on: 14/12/2019 14:14:47 »
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 13:33:02
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/12/2019 13:23:34
One  specific answer is that we call it the Moon.
The Earth is a "moon" of the Sun.


Thank Ewe BC. So, our "moon" is called "The Moon" is that it's name ? or does our Moon not have one ?



Does this then mean that the Sun is a moon of Sagittarius A ?
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #8 on: 14/12/2019 16:27:36 »
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 14:14:47
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 13:33:02
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/12/2019 13:23:34
One  specific answer is that we call it the Moon.
The Earth is a "moon" of the Sun.


Thank Ewe BC. So, our "moon" is called "The Moon" is that it's name ? or does our Moon not have one ?



Does this then mean that the Sun is a moon of Sagittarius A ?
To be accurate, there is only one "Moon". It is the natural satellite of the Earth that takes roughly a month to complete one synodic period (the word moon comes from the word meaning "month".

The tendency to call other natural satellites "moons" is similar to calling all open-end adjustable wrenches "Crescent" wrenches.  Crescent is the brand name, and only the wrenches made by that company are truly "Crescent wrenches".  The company name just got closely associated with that type of wrench.
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #9 on: 14/12/2019 17:08:13 »
Looking at your pic, I'm seriously considering contacting (?)SPCA, Animal Protection, or whatever; but is it too late?  Has she gone? Are you expecting her back for "milking time"?
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #10 on: 14/12/2019 17:51:18 »
Quote from: Janus on 14/12/2019 16:27:36
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 14:14:47
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 13:33:02
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/12/2019 13:23:34
One  specific answer is that we call it the Moon.
The Earth is a "moon" of the Sun.


Thank Ewe BC. So, our "moon" is called "The Moon" is that it's name ? or does our Moon not have one ?



Does this then mean that the Sun is a moon of Sagittarius A ?
To be accurate, there is only one "Moon". It is the natural satellite of the Earth that takes roughly a month to complete one synodic period (the word moon comes from the word meaning "month".

The tendency to call other natural satellites "moons" is similar to calling all open-end adjustable wrenches "Crescent" wrenches.  Crescent is the brand name, and only the wrenches made by that company are truly "Crescent wrenches".  The company name just got closely associated with that type of wrench.


like I may say "wifey is 'Hoovering' the carpet"....when all she is doing is vacuuming !!..like a good wifey lol
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #11 on: 14/12/2019 17:53:18 »
Quote from: Bill S on 14/12/2019 17:08:13
Looking at your pic, I'm seriously considering contacting (?)SPCA, Animal Protection, or whatever; but is it too late?  Has she gone? Are you expecting her back for "milking time"?


Ewe can save your phone call Bill !! as she approached 50ft she saw the Bull in the next field !...one last bounce and she landed on him ! lol Bouncing Bovine !
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #12 on: 14/12/2019 18:14:48 »
Concupiscent cow?  Is this getting silly?
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #13 on: 15/12/2019 09:27:37 »
Quote from: Janus on 14/12/2019 16:27:36
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 14:14:47
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 13:33:02
Quote from: Bored chemist on 14/12/2019 13:23:34
One  specific answer is that we call it the Moon.
The Earth is a "moon" of the Sun.


Thank Ewe BC. So, our "moon" is called "The Moon" is that it's name ? or does our Moon not have one ?



Does this then mean that the Sun is a moon of Sagittarius A ?
To be accurate, there is only one "Moon". It is the natural satellite of the Earth that takes roughly a month to complete one synodic period (the word moon comes from the word meaning "month".

The tendency to call other natural satellites "moons" is similar to calling all open-end adjustable wrenches "Crescent" wrenches.  Crescent is the brand name, and only the wrenches made by that company are truly "Crescent wrenches".  The company name just got closely associated with that type of wrench.
Tell it to galilleo and jupiter. All things are satelites of others exept for one point. Galactic centre, galactic arms, clusters, stars, planets, MOONS, satelites, rings..........
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #14 on: 16/12/2019 02:55:26 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 14/12/2019 14:03:35
A moon is only a moon if it is spherical i believe, if not it is just a satelite, of which jupiter has lots and lots. If a noon had a moon it would have to be very big, or considered a binary pair as what  constitutes a satelite is  orbiting an orbiter.
AFAIK, there is no shape requirement for an object to be called moon, e.g. Phobos and Deimos, which have irregular shapes. The very word moon is even put on the title of Wikipedia articles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_(moon)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deimos_(moon)

But there is size requirement. Objects smaller than this requirement are called moonlets instead of moons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlet
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Re: What Do You Call A Moon Of A Moon ?
« Reply #15 on: 16/12/2019 03:05:30 »
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 14:14:47
Does this then mean that the Sun is a moon of Sagittarius A ?
Few stars actually orbit Sgr-A.  The sun is not one of them as its orbital speed is far too large at this distance from such a small object.  No, we go around the galaxy in a non-elliptical path and if we orbit anything, it is the general cloud of assorted objects and (mostly) dark matter that exists mostly (but not entirely) within the radius of our circuit.  Sgr-A is only a tiny percentage of this mass, and is thus just one of those assorted objects.
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« Reply #16 on: 16/12/2019 13:11:51 »
Quote from: Halc on 16/12/2019 03:05:30
Quote from: neilep on 14/12/2019 14:14:47
Does this then mean that the Sun is a moon of Sagittarius A ?
Few stars actually orbit Sgr-A.  The sun is not one of them as its orbital speed is far too large at this distance from such a small object.  No, we go around the galaxy in a non-elliptical path and if we orbit anything, it is the general cloud of assorted objects and (mostly) dark matter that exists mostly (but not entirely) within the radius of our circuit.  Sgr-A is only a tiny percentage of this mass, and is thus just one of those assorted objects.


DOH !!..you know ......i had a face palm moment when i read your answer !!....of course you are correct.thank you
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« Reply #17 on: 16/12/2019 13:13:37 »
Quote from: Bill S on 14/12/2019 18:14:48
Concupiscent cow?  Is this getting silly?
a little bit of levity does no harm !! ;)
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