[alancalverd]

It isn't clear how Boris will fair on that score.

"We have taken note of the scientific flim-flam and wiff-waff, and spent a lot of time spaffing over it. It will be all over by Christmas. Who gives a τρακατρουκα anyway?"

[Bored chemist]

That's the difference.
Boris says he's following the science; he's lying but... it's Boris.
Trump says the science is wrong; he's lying but... it's Trump.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

Trump is doing extremely well for a democratically elected idiot. Of course his performance pales in comparison with Stalin's wild success using the Lysenko strategy, but those glory days are past and any contribution to reducing the population under the modern rules of misgovernment is welcome. 

You're not a polititial are you alan ? Take the fact undeniable,  then birsmirch it and link it to the worlds biggest mass murderer. Worthy of Sean Spicer at his peak.

[Bored chemist]

Take the fact undeniable

Which fact did you have in mind?

The problem is that in the field of emerging diseases there are few facts and most of them are deniable.

[alancalverd]

What is undeniable is that Trump is the Anointed Saviour of Donald J Trump, and millions of idiots are prepared to lay down their lives for Him, thus establishing the USA as the world leader in death by stupidity.

The similarity between last week's  Republican rally outside the White House and the Triumphs of Nuremberg was no accident.  A phalanx of flags with crests, rant against socialism, rant against the Enemy Within, orchestrated applause.... we've seen it all before.

There are differences, of course. The original Fuhrer had actually served his country in uniform and with some distinction, and turned to science to murder his countrymen, and Stalin gave political power to bad science, whereas this lazy ignorant coward just demolished the public health service and let nature take its course.

Meanwhile Cummings tells the British population that they have a moral duty to send their kids to the place where they are most likely to become infected, so they can get back to work and infect everyone else.

[set fair]

Yes Cummings looks like god's gift to conspiracy theorists. Hard to put what he does down to stupidity.

[alancalverd]

No conspiracy, just simple facts. The man is above the law and the Cabinet does what he tells them.

If it's bad for your health and ain't stupid, it's evil.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

Yes Cummings looks like god's gift to conspiracy theorists. Hard to put what he does down to stupidity.

That would be steve bannon

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

What is undeniable is that Trump is the Anointed Saviour of Donald J Trump, and millions of idiots are prepared to lay down their lives for Him, thus establishing the USA as the world leader in death by stupidity.

The similarity between last week's  Republican rally outside the White House and the Triumphs of Nuremberg was no accident.  A phalanx of flags with crests, rant against socialism, rant against the Enemy Within, orchestrated applause.... we've seen it all before.

There are differences, of course. The original Fuhrer had actually served his country in uniform and with some distinction, and turned to science to murder his countrymen, and Stalin gave political power to bad science, whereas this lazy ignorant coward just demolished the public health service and let nature take its course.

Meanwhile Cummings tells the British population that they have a moral duty to send their kids to the place where they are most likely to become infected, so they can get back to work and infect everyone else.

W

No conspiracy, just simple facts. The man is above the law and the Cabinet does what he tells them.

If it's bad for your health and ain't stupid, it's evil.

We'll just put this in the "Alans theories of Queen selects anyone to be PM" folder

[alancalverd]

An interesting theory, but whilst the election of crooks and incompetents to the post of President of the USA proves that literally anyone can get to be President, the fact remains that the British constitution requires the monarch to invite the person most likely to command a parliamentary majority, to form a government. Not "anyone". Alec Douglas-Home was appointed PM in 1963 whilst not even a member of the Commons.

It's worth studying our bizarre constitution and history before coming up with new theories about it. And please don't ascribe nonsense to me.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

An interesting theory, but whilst the election of crooks and incompetents to the post of President of the USA proves that literally anyone can get to be President, the fact remains that the British constitution requires the monarch to invite the person most likely to command a parliamentary majority, to form a government. Not "anyone". Alec Douglas-Home was appointed PM in 1963 whilst not even a member of the Commons.

It's worth studying our bizarre constitution and history before coming up with new theories about it. And please don't ascribe nonsense to me.

Was he the leader of the party and did he command the most votes in the commons ? Or did the queen select the next passing person from the streets

[Bored chemist]

Was he the leader of the party

Yes, but you seem to to understand that the party is a convenience, but not constitutionally significant.
There is nothing in the constitution to stop Boris defecting to the Labour party; I doubt they would have him and it might be politically awkward.
It would probably have been easier for Blair to "defect" to the Tories since he wasn't actually very Left wing.
But the MP for a constituency is decided by a vote of the residents, not by a party.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

An interesting theory, but whilst the election of crooks and incompetents to the post of President of the USA proves that literally anyone can get to be President, the fact remains that the British constitution requires the monarch to invite the person most likely to command a parliamentary majority, to form a government. Not "anyone". Alec Douglas-Home was appointed PM in 1963 whilst not even a member of the Commons.

It's worth studying our bizarre constitution and history before coming up with new theories about it. And please don't ascribe nonsense to me.

Please read the quote below

The similarity between last week's  Republican rally outside the White House and the Triumphs of Nuremberg was no accident.  A phalanx of flags with crests, rant against socialism, rant against the Enemy Within, orchestrated applause.... we've seen it all before.

There are differences, of course. The original Fuhrer had actually served his country in uniform and with some distinction, and turned to science to murder his countrymen, and Stalin gave political power to bad science, whereas this lazy ignorant coward just demolished the public health service and let nature take its course.

Augmeted but not taken out of context as is the habit of gaining point. According to you Mr Calverd Trump is like hitler, only Trump is much worse than either Hitler or Stalin.

Hitler declared biggest war in world history

Stalin biggest mass murderer in history

Trump worse

Queen picks whoever she likes for PM

Cromwell never happened

Parliament, specifically the house of commons has no power

[alancalverd]

Rubbish. Try reading, thinking and learning. And don't put words into other people's mouths - that's a Trump ploy, though he's better at it.

Since Douglas-Home was not a member of the House of Commons when appointed as Prime Minister, he could not have been leader of the parliamentary Conservative party. He was never elected leader of the national party.

If you have a mind to learn something about our constitution,  look up "royal prerogative". It was part of the O level history curriculum in my day.

[Bored chemist]

According to you Mr Calverd Trump is like hitler, only Trump is much worse than either Hitler or Stalin.

Where did he say that?

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

Rubbish. Try reading, thinking and learning. And don't put words into other people's mouths - that's a Trump ploy, though he's better at it.

Since Douglas-Home was not a member of the House of Commons when appointed as Prime Minister, he could not have been leader of the parliamentary Conservative party. He was never elected leader of the national party.

If you have a mind to learn something about our constitution,  look up "royal prerogative". It was part of the O level history curriculum in my day.

rubbish. Your words or am i reading "its nuremberg all over again" incorrectly ? Technically you could have a technocrat  prime minister such as was italy after the crash, but this again would come from parliament and i doubt parliamet would accept it. Monarch cannot take away the independance of the commons. Holme was leader of the party, its pretty much defacto.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Monti

You could try posting rubbish more often then acting offended and ingnominious, give it a go !

[Bored chemist]

According to you Mr Calverd Trump is like hitler, only Trump is much worse than either Hitler or Stalin.

Where did he say that?

[alancalverd]

am i reading "its nuremberg all over again" incorrectly ?

You may be reading it correctly, but not from any of my posts. Why not have a nice cup of tea, dear?

this again would come from parliament and i doubt parliamet would accept it.

You may be confused between the Speaker, who is elected by the Commons, and the Prime Minister, who is appointed by the monarch. 
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/appointment-prime-ministers explains it all.

[Bored chemist]

Your words or am i reading "its nuremberg all over again" incorrectly ?

I don't know about reading it correctly, but I'm sure Alan, for all his faults, would have written it correctly.
Nuremberg is a proper noun and gets a capital letter.
So it's clear that you are not quoting him.
It kind of looks like you are making stuff up.
Why would you do that?
Is it because you don't actually have a valid point?

[alancalverd]

One of the iconic Sixties posters was  picture of a rhinoceros with the caption "I may have my faults, but being wrong isn't one of them".  During a heated debate in a trade union conference I was labelled as an "intellectual pachyderm". Love it.