[Bored chemist]

If anyone would care to explain why God doesn't exist,

A bloke named William of Occam did that a while back.

You seem to have missed the point.
It's not up to us to waste time trying to prove a negative.
It's your job to show that He does.

Many are adamant that there is no evidence for his existence, but they aren't convincing.

OK, show the evidence...

Otherwise, it's clear that those who say there's no evidence are pretty convincingly right..

[Bored chemist]

Bob, Thanks for your willingness to express your feelings about Jesus.

I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

if God's on our side
He'll stop the next war

[duffyd]

Thanks Bored. We have heard those objections for years. I am hoping someone might have a viable position they'd like to share.
Someone else?
No one?
Again, I'm happy to analyze a new theory if it has substance.
Anyone?

[duffyd]

Dear god is this still going ?

People ressurected by jesus - 0
Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600
Separation of religion from law 400 years ago
People saved from malaria by jesus 0
People saved by science from malaria over 1 billion
Dont marry your sister !

1. 0 resurrected by jesus
Can you support that with credible evidence? Thanks

[duffyd]

How did they decide which words they wanted the non-existing Christ to say? Who thought up the beatitudes? Why did they choose to make this character a single, Jewish, poor, uneducated, lowly fella who would threaten the political and religious status quo? What was there purpose? Did they hope to reap big profits over creating this comic strip hero? Where did they find the time?

[duffyd]

How did they come up with this material?
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”
Can you find comparable speeches anywhere that were composed before this was written for the N.T.?

[duffyd]

I'm perplexed. Did the guys who penned the N.T. intend on selling it as a non-fiction series initially? Or, was it supposed to be a fairy tale from the day they began production?
Did they hope to fool their peers from the start or did they realize it would take years to publish plenty of copies and by that point, everyone who was living at the time, who they tossed into the narrative, would be long gone and they wouldn't face much scrutiny?

[jfoldbar (OP)]

If anyone would care to explain why God doesn't exist, I'd enjoy reviewing your theories and data.
Many are adamant that there is no evidence for his existence, but they aren't convincing. If you would like to share a viable theory, please don't hesitate.

this thread is about the invalidity of the bible, not whether god does or doesnt exist. thats the next thread down.

[duffyd]

jfoldbar
"well, i guess so. but if we based our moral choices on what is written in the bible well we would be acting as though they did in the spanish inquisition. id rather live my life actually by moral code rather than the moral(immoral) code of the bible."

What does the bible say we should do, as they did in the Inquisition? 

[jfoldbar (OP)]

What does the bible say we should do, as they did in the Inquisition?

according to them, it does.

[duffyd]

What does the bible say we should do, as they did in the Inquisition?

according to them, it does.

What I mean is this: what things did the bible tell the people who conducted the Inquisition they were supposed to do that we as Christians are to do as well? ?

[Bored chemist]

Thanks Bored. We have heard those objections for years.

And, if you were acting rationally, you would either refute them, or you would accept them.

But you haven't- even though, as you say, you have had years to do so.


So, since you have  a multi-year track record of not being rational, what are you doing on a science discussion forum?

[alancalverd]

Did the guys who penned the N.T. intend on selling it as a non-fiction series initially?

Nobody "penned the NT", or ever claimed to. It's a random collection of books and letters of vague provenance, collated edited and translated at various times for the benefit of whoever paid for the work.

It's worth remembering that it was supposed to be secret magic
 

the religious ferment caused by Wycliffe's Bible in the late 14th century led to the death penalty for anyone found in unlicensed possession of Scripture in English

with Tyndale executed in 1536 for daring to translate a bunch of Hebrew and Greek texts into English.

[duffyd]

Did the guys who penned the N.T. intend on selling it as a non-fiction series initially?

Nobody "penned the NT", or ever claimed to. It's a random collection of books and letters of vague provenance, collated edited and translated at various times for the benefit of whoever paid for the work.

It's worth remembering that it was supposed to be secret magic
When you make ridiculous claims, you would do well to be prepared to run like mad or to support said nonsense with intelligent reasons.
On your mark

 

[duffyd]

Did the guys who penned the N.T. intend on selling it as a non-fiction series initially?

Nobody "penned the NT", or ever claimed to. It's a random collection of books and letters of vague provenance, collated edited and translated at various times for the benefit of whoever paid for the work.

It's worth remembering that it was supposed to be secret magic

When you make ridiculous claims, you would do well to be prepared to run like mad or to support said nonsense with intelligent reasons.
On your mark

 

[duffyd]

Dear god is this still going ?

People ressurected by jesus - 0
Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600
Separation of religion from law 400 years ago
People saved from malaria by jesus 0
People saved by science from malaria over 1 billion
Dont marry your sister !

1. 0 resurrected by jesus
Can you support that with credible evidence? Thanks

No.

[duffyd]

What does the bible say we should do, as they did in the Inquisition?

according to them, it does.

What I mean is this: what things did the bible tell the people who conducted the Inquisition they were supposed to do that we as Christians are to do as well? ?

Nothing

[duffyd]

Did the guys who penned the N.T. intend on selling it as a non-fiction series initially?

Nobody "penned the NT", or ever claimed to. It's a random collection of books and letters of vague provenance, collated edited and translated at various times for the benefit of whoever paid for the work.

It's worth remembering that it was supposed to be secret magic
 

the religious ferment caused by Wycliffe's Bible in the late 14th century led to the death penalty for anyone found in unlicensed possession of Scripture in English

with Tyndale executed in 1536 for daring to translate a bunch of Hebrew and Greek texts into English.

If you get a chance to answer my question and to confirm your claim, that would be great.

I hope the people who refuse Christ's offer carefully, carefully think about what they are doing. Sounding like you won a debate, sounding cool or bad or whatever, means very little when you die.  Your death is around the corner and death is pretty final.

[Petrochemicals]

From a humanitarian point, are you ok Duffy, should we contact the relevant authorities ? I mean your answering yourself.

Dear god is this still going ?

People ressurected by jesus - 0
Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600
Separation of religion from law 400 years ago
People saved from malaria by jesus 0
People saved by science from malaria over 1 billion
Dont marry your sister !

1. 0 resurrected by jesus
Can you support that with credible evidence? Thanks

No.

I know no one resurrected by christ, no one i know has heard of this. Its never made the news. Promises promises and no honouring of them. I cannot prove somethingincorrect that refuses to exist.

[duffyd]

From a humanitarian point, are you ok Duffy, should we contact the relevant authorities ? I mean your answering yourself.

Dear god is this still going ?

People ressurected by jesus - 0
Years of living in plague filled misery since jesus 1600
Separation of religion from law 400 years ago
People saved from malaria by jesus 0
People saved by science from malaria over 1 billion
Dont marry your sister !

1. 0 resurrected by jesus
Can you support that with credible evidence? Thanks

No.

I know no one resurrected by christ, no one i know has heard of this. Its never made the news. Promises promises and no honouring of them. I cannot prove somethingincorrect that refuses to exist.

Yea. If you don't mind. Hurry! I've got loonie tunes on here saying Christ doesn't take his own to heaven when they die. Hurry
But, not as a humanitarian type thing. See if you can find an outfit that wants a fresh cadaver. I refuse to pay somebody to throw my carcass in an expensive hole someplace. Again, you're alright dude.