[duffyd]

You don't know what he preached. How can you call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can you put any label on Him? You know practically nothing about the guy.

Wow a classic case of projection. Just couldn't let this one pass. Or do you have a time machine?

Let me rephrase that for you so you sound rational. "I don't know what he preached. How can I call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can I put any label on Him? I know practically nothing about the guy."

If I got something wrong, by all means, prove it. You can't and won't, so your response is sort of silly.

He couldn't and he didn't.

[Bored chemist]

Scientifically, that is evidence that HE is real.

Or that people are fallible- which they are.
So it's not actually proof.

HE proved beyond a shadow of turning that even death couldn't defeat Him. His disciples saw Him, spoke to Him, touched Him, even ate food with Him after He was murdered and buried.

Or, among many executions, the Romans botched one and cut him down before he was dead.

You seem to keep forgetting the balance that is needed in a scientific discussion. You ignore any possible other explanation, and claim that the only answer is Goddidit.

[Bored chemist]

You don't know what he preached. How can you call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can you put any label on Him? You know practically nothing about the guy.

Wow a classic case of projection. Just couldn't let this one pass. Or do you have a time machine?

Let me rephrase that for you so you sound rational. "I don't know what he preached. How can I call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can I put any label on Him? I know practically nothing about the guy."

If I got something wrong, by all means, prove it. You can't and won't, so your response is sort of silly.

He couldn't and he didn't.

So, somehow, it matter who points out that you are wrong.
That's... unusual.

[duffyd]

Maybe we disappear Poof! because we have productive work to do and not enough time to devote to discussing fairytales.

Maybe not

[duffyd]

It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor…"  "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some  general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades,  inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage...… or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.

Wrong again in almost every respect

[duffyd]

B

Wrong again. Virgins sacrificed? You are confused.

[duffyd]

A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).

You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.

[Bored chemist]

It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor…"  "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some  general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades,  inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage...… or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.

Wrong again in almost every respect

As far as I can tell, those are mainly right or, at least, fair comment.
Just because you don't like them doesn't man you can dismiss them without justification.

In what way(s) are the statements wrong?

[Bored chemist]

You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.

Matthew 5:18
says he was a teacher  (and since He was Jewish, that makes him a Rabbi) and that He preached that the Old laws were still in play.
That makes him a fundamentalist- at least in that it means he wasn't pushing for change.

[duffyd]

I am batting a 1,000 percent. Truth is tough to defeat. I have no monopoly. It is there for the examination.

[Bored chemist]

I am batting a 1,000 percent.

So, we can add innumeracy to your list of problems then.

Truth is tough to defeat.

Then try using it, rather than just claiming that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.

I have no monopoly.

Buy yourself one.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/monoply-board-game/114185542332?hash=item1a95fd1abc:g:-HUAAOSwJX5elLlq

. It is there for the examination.

Among the things open for examination is your record of failing to address issues that people raise. You just ignore them or lie about them.

[alancalverd]

A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).

You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.

Not my job. Why don't you read the bible instead of spouting drivel?

John 1:38 And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi (which translated means Teacher), where are You staying?”
John 4:31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”
John 6:25  When they found Him on the other side of the sea, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You get here?”
John 9:2  And His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?”
John 11:8 The disciples *said to Him, “Rabbi, the Jews were just now seeking to stone You, and are You going there again?”
Mark 9:5  Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”
Mark 11:21 Being reminded, Peter *said to Him, “Rabbi, look, the fig tree which You cursed has withered.”
John 1:49 Nathanael answered Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel.”
John 3:2  this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
Matthew 26:25  And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, “Surely it is not I, Rabbi?” Jesus *said to him, “You have said it yourself.”
Matthew 26:49 Immediately Judas went to Jesus and said, “Hail, Rabbi!” and kissed Him.
Mark 14:45  After coming, Judas immediately went to Him, saying, “Rabbi!” and kissed Him.
Mark 10:51 And answering him, Jesus said, “What do you want Me to do for you?” And the blind man said to Him, “Rabboni, I want to regain my sight!”
John 20:16 Jesus *said to her, “Mary!” She turned and *said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).
Matthew 23:7-8  respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men. But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.

RTFM, then repent lest the Lord strike you down for bearing false witness against His Son.

[jeffreyH]

False witness eh? What are the wages of sin again? Tremble Duffy!

[duffyd]

A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).

You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.

Not my job. Why don't you read the bible instead of spouting drivel?

John 1:38 And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi (which translated means Teacher), where are You staying?”
John 4:31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”
John 6:25  When they found Him on the other side of the sea, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You get here?”
John 9:2  And His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?”
John 11:8 The disciples *said to Him, “Rabbi, the Jews were just now seeking to stone You, and are You going there again?”
Mark 9:5  Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”
Mark 11:21 Being reminded, Peter *said to Him, “Rabbi, look, the fig tree which You cursed has withered.”
John 1:49 Nathanael answered Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel.”
John 3:2  this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
Matthew 26:25  And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, “Surely it is not I, Rabbi?” Jesus *said to him, “You have said it yourself.”
Matthew 26:49 Immediately Judas went to Jesus and said, “Hail, Rabbi!” and kissed Him.
Mark 14:45  After coming, Judas immediately went to Him, saying, “Rabbi!” and kissed Him.
Mark 10:51 And answering him, Jesus said, “What do you want Me to do for you?” And the blind man said to Him, “Rabboni, I want to regain my sight!”
John 20:16 Jesus *said to her, “Mary!” She turned and *said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).
Matthew 23:7-8  respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men. But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.

RTFM, then repent lest the Lord strike you down for bearing false witness against His Son.

A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).

You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.

Not my job. Why don't you read the bible instead of spouting drivel?

John 1:38 And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi (which translated means Teacher), where are You staying?”
John 4:31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”
John 6:25  When they found Him on the other side of the sea, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You get here?”
John 9:2  And His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?”
John 11:8 The disciples *said to Him, “Rabbi, the Jews were just now seeking to stone You, and are You going there again?”
Mark 9:5  Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”
Mark 11:21 Being reminded, Peter *said to Him, “Rabbi, look, the fig tree which You cursed has withered.”
John 1:49 Nathanael answered Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel.”
John 3:2  this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
Matthew 26:25  And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, “Surely it is not I, Rabbi?” Jesus *said to him, “You have said it yourself.”
Matthew 26:49 Immediately Judas went to Jesus and said, “Hail, Rabbi!” and kissed Him.
Mark 14:45  After coming, Judas immediately went to Him, saying, “Rabbi!” and kissed Him.
Mark 10:51 And answering him, Jesus said, “What do you want Me to do for you?” And the blind man said to Him, “Rabboni, I want to regain my sight!”
John 20:16 Jesus *said to her, “Mary!” She turned and *said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).
Matthew 23:7-8  respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men. But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.

RTFM, then repent lest the Lord strike you down for bearing false witness against His Son.

Nice try. You forgot something. Keep reading. HE was GOD. HE was anything but a fundamentalist Rabbi. HE was radical, a revolutionary, HE rammed the O.T. down their throats. Loving HIM was the completion of all that came before. Obeying the Law was summarized in loving one another with the Love with which HE loved us. HE had to be silenced by the fundamental Rabbis of His day.

May the LORD bless you and keep you; may the LORD cause His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; may the LORD lift up His countenance toward you and give you peace.’…

[duffyd]

 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Got to love that winnowing fork

[duffyd]

They worshiped the man. You don't go around letting yourself be worshiped unless of course You are...

[alancalverd]

Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.

[duffyd]

Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.

[Bored chemist]

HE was radical, a revolutionary, HE rammed the O.T. down their throats.

Let's just have a quick look at that abbreviation.
He rammed the OLD testament down their throats.
Not very revolutionary really, is it?

[duffyd]

Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.

 And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.
So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!”
And the crowds that went before him and that followed him were shouting, “Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest!”
And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”