[Petrochemicals]

[Bored chemist]

Thanks for sharing.

[duffyd]

Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.

I just proved JESUS CHRIST was worshiped.

[Petrochemicals]

They murdered an innocent man because HE was a threat, not to any government--Christians on the whole are wonderful citizens.

Jesus was not a Christian. Unlike the scum who ran the Inquisition. Or those that fiddle with choirboys, burn witches, or murder other Christians for being other. Or those who protect the miscreants. 

Good deeds do not require justification. People on the whole are  reasonably good citizens. Religion provides a bogus excuse for the inexcusable.

religion was something to be owned, for power, any semblance of respectability began with the first vatican council. Medici had vatican parties orgy parties, painted boys green who then died due to lack of skin oxydisation. Henry 8th wanted power back, but for reasons of his own power. The jews muslims bhuddists hindus all power.

Its a bit of rose tinted specks and judging history with todays standards, power and religion must have been the way of it

Also are you not screwing people (children included) if you promise them saving and resurection and all you do is lead them to accept an early painful grave ? And no ressurection.

[Bored chemist]

Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.

I just proved JESUS CHRIST was worshiped.

Still is.
Give yourself a medal.
Doesn't even prove he was real. (loads of "Gods" have been worshipped).
At best you have shown that Alan is mistaken about something.
Hardly warrants capital letters.

[duffyd]

I'm told by those who know that there's little difference between "I am" and "mine is" in Aramaic. "Mine is the Way, the Truth and the Life" makes sense - I guess every charismatic leader and vegetarian has said it sometime. But "I am the Way...." is drivel in any language.

I just explained why you should trust the editors of the various translations and versions. Someone else answers for you and I don't know what your response is. I have asked this individual dozens of times to stop interfering with my conversations and debates. She cannot control herself. Therefore, make sure when you do respond to me you mention your name in the content.  She violates the rules non-stop. I have this magnetism that some women and some men simply find irresistible. I don't consciously encourage these obsessions with me, and I can't prevent them. I try to be nice to my diehard fans. They always crave more of me even though I'm happily married and would never cheat on my spouse. I know how Elvis felt. 

[duffyd]

I understand why folks attack evil. I do too. I get why, when they can't dismiss HIM in a debate, they revert automatically to attacking people who claim to follow GOD but are really just wolves. HE warned HIS followers to be wary of such animals. We must remain as innocent as lambs but I enjoy of the tactics of the wolves who don't pretend, too. They are predictable to a scientific certainty. His winnowing fork will come in handy someday soon.

[duffyd]

They murdered an innocent man because HE was a threat, not to any government--Christians on the whole are wonderful citizens.

Jesus was not a Christian. Unlike the scum who ran the Inquisition. Or those that fiddle with choirboys, burn witches, or murder other Christians for being other. Or those who protect the miscreants. 

Good deeds do not require justification. People on the whole are  reasonably good citizens. Religion provides a bogus excuse for the inexcusable.

religion was something to be owned, for power, any semblance of respectability began with the first vatican council. Medici had vatican parties orgy parties, painted boys green who then died due to lack of skin oxydisation. Henry 8th wanted power back, but for reasons of his own power. The jews muslims bhuddists hindus all power.

Its a bit of rose tinted specks and judging history with todays standards, power and religion must have been the way of it

Also are you not screwing people (children included) if you promise them saving and resurection and all you do is lead them to accept an early painful grave ? And no ressurection.

Paradise. Perfection. Heaven. I can't wait.

[alancalverd]

Why do you call the people who did those things Christians?

I don't. They do. By their deeds shall ye know them.

Paradise. Perfection. Heaven. I can't wait.

and yet you are still here. O ye of little faith. 

[duffyd]

Why do you call the people who did those things Christians?

I don't. They do. By their deeds shall ye know them.

Paradise. Perfection. Heaven. I can't wait.

and yet you are still here. O ye of little faith.

You give up so easily?
How many usernames would you guess an individual might use who comments here?

[Petrochemicals]

They murdered an innocent man because HE was a threat, not to any government--Christians on the whole are wonderful citizens.

Jesus was not a Christian. Unlike the scum who ran the Inquisition. Or those that fiddle with choirboys, burn witches, or murder other Christians for being other. Or those who protect the miscreants. 

Good deeds do not require justification. People on the whole are  reasonably good citizens. Religion provides a bogus excuse for the inexcusable.

religion was something to be owned, for power, any semblance of respectability began with the first vatican council. Medici had vatican parties orgy parties, painted boys green who then died due to lack of skin oxydisation. Henry 8th wanted power back, but for reasons of his own power. The jews muslims bhuddists hindus all power.

Its a bit of rose tinted specks and judging history with todays standards, power and religion must have been the way of it

Also are you not screwing people (children included) if you promise them saving and resurection and all you do is lead them to accept an early painful grave ? And no ressurection.

Paradise. Perfection. Heaven. I can't wait.

Was that the orgys or the screwing children, or am i failing to understand what you are saying

[duffyd]

They murdered an innocent man because HE was a threat, not to any government--Christians on the whole are wonderful citizens.

Jesus was not a Christian. Unlike the scum who ran the Inquisition. Or those that fiddle with choirboys, burn witches, or murder other Christians for being other. Or those who protect the miscreants. 

Good deeds do not require justification. People on the whole are  reasonably good citizens. Religion provides a bogus excuse for the inexcusable.

religion was something to be owned, for power, any semblance of respectability began with the first vatican council. Medici had vatican parties orgy parties, painted boys green who then died due to lack of skin oxydisation. Henry 8th wanted power back, but for reasons of his own power. The jews muslims bhuddists hindus all power.

Its a bit of rose tinted specks and judging history with todays standards, power and religion must have been the way of it

Also are you not screwing people (children included) if you promise them saving and resurection and all you do is lead them to accept an early painful grave ? And no ressurection.

Paradise. Perfection. Heaven. I can't wait.

Was that the orgys or the screwing children, or am i failing to understand what you are saying

That's preaching. You know it's always possible to treat others with respect. You and yours insult Christians non-stop for doing the very things you do. You could save a lot time just debating the points.

[duffyd]

I have been a Christian now for a long time. I'm always impressed with the disdain so many people have for HIM, their unwillingness to reason, to discuss pertinent issues as mature individuals, the drama, the exaggerations, the lies, the over-the-top accusations that gush out of these people. I have seen every trick in the book to dismiss and distract and undermine a serious look at HIM. To be frank, it is funny. It is tragic because the bottom line remains the same, but they are cute partly because they truly believe they are all that, that their arguments are razor sharp, powerful, piercing.
I know how desperate they are to be united with GOD or they wouldn't protest so much. Their pride is as contemptuous as those who abused others while pretending to be what they were not, but, you can't tell them that. You can't tell them anything. They are the Pharisees of modernity. No one is as righteous as they are. No one deserves anything but contempt from them, they consider themselves that good. They cannot learn anything new, just like the brain washed. They are on automatic pilot and cruise through life unwilling to question their worldview. All the time they are missing out on what it is like to know HIM. They will not be scientists in the true sense and seek through experimentation whether they know the truth or not. They are all the same. They speak with one voice. HE loves them so.

[duffyd]

They murdered an innocent man because HE was a threat, not to any government--Christians on the whole are wonderful citizens.

Jesus was not a Christian. Unlike the scum who ran the Inquisition. Or those that fiddle with choirboys, burn witches, or murder other Christians for being other. Or those who protect the miscreants. 

Good deeds do not require justification. People on the whole are  reasonably good citizens. Religion provides a bogus excuse for the inexcusable.

religion was something to be owned, for power, any semblance of respectability began with the first vatican council. Medici had vatican parties orgy parties, painted boys green who then died due to lack of skin oxydisation. Henry 8th wanted power back, but for reasons of his own power. The jews muslims bhuddists hindus all power.

Its a bit of rose tinted specks and judging history with todays standards, power and religion must have been the way of it

Also are you not screwing people (children included) if you promise them saving and resurection and all you do is lead them to accept an early painful grave ? And no ressurection.

Paradise. Perfection. Heaven. I can't wait.

Was that the orgys or the screwing children, or am i failing to understand what you are saying

While they obssess over Christians, they pretend we are all perverts, evil, two-faced beasts. They know that millions, the vast majority of Christians are lovely, good, decent, honest people and the fact that they never mention that proves they must strain to argue their side.
Christ laid it all out on the pages of the N.T. Didn't pull punches. Didn't try to sweet talk HIS opponents. He told them what HE thought with candid authority. They murmured and plotted. They ganged up on HIM secretly using every devilish manipulation to have their will done. I wish I had been there. I would loved to have seen it unfold. Each part coming to pass in brief snippets of time, I'd be observing it all go down, just as we read in the N.T. The smell of the Passover meals cooking, the swirling aroma in the air, the sounds of children in the background, the enormous stones they carved to form the buildings, the clothing ancient women wore, their gnarled teeth, the swords the men carried. What is really weird is that it really did take place. It happened. Long, long time ago. Just as they said.

[Petrochemicals]

While they obssess over Christians, they pretend we are all perverts, evil, two-faced beasts. They know that millions, the vast majority of Christians are lovely, good, decent, honest people and the fact that they never mention that proves they must strain to argue their side.
Christ laid it all out on the pages of the N.T. Didn't pull punches. Didn't try to sweet talk HIS opponents. He told them what HE thought with candid authority. They murmured and plotted. They ganged up on HIM secretly using every devilish manipulation to have their will done. I wish I had been there. I would loved to have seen it unfold. Each part coming to pass in brief snippets of time, I'd be observing it all go down, just as we read in the N.T. The smell of the Passover meals cooking, the swirling aroma in the air, the sounds of children in the background, the enormous stones they carved to form the buildings, the clothing ancient women wore, their gnarled teeth, the swords the men carried. What is really weird is that it really did take place. It happened. Long, long time ago. Just as they said.

So
 

[duffyd]

While they obssess over Christians, they pretend we are all perverts, evil, two-faced beasts. They know that millions, the vast majority of Christians are lovely, good, decent, honest people and the fact that they never mention that proves they must strain to argue their side.
Christ laid it all out on the pages of the N.T. Didn't pull punches. Didn't try to sweet talk HIS opponents. He told them what HE thought with candid authority. They murmured and plotted. They ganged up on HIM secretly using every devilish manipulation to have their will done. I wish I had been there. I would loved to have seen it unfold. Each part coming to pass in brief snippets of time, I'd be observing it all go down, just as we read in the N.T. The smell of the Passover meals cooking, the swirling aroma in the air, the sounds of children in the background, the enormous stones they carved to form the buildings, the clothing ancient women wore, their gnarled teeth, the swords the men carried. What is really weird is that it really did take place. It happened. Long, long time ago. Just as they said.

So
 

Thanks Kerosene. Batting 1,000 percent, still. I should get into the prophecy business full time.

[duffyd]

Dr. Robert Blair

We learn about Jesus primarily from the New Testament. But we learn about Jesus also from other early sources. One such source of information and confirmation is the collection of non-Christian material about Jesus, both Roman and Jewish. For example, Princeton biblical scholar Bruce Metzger says that even without the New Testament records, “early non-Christian testimonies concerning Jesus, though scanty, are sufficient to prove … that he was a historical figure who lived in Palestine in the early years of the first century, that he gathered a group of followers about himself, and that he was condemned to death under Pontius Pilate. Today, no competent scholar denies the historicity of Jesus.”

One of Jesus's clearest self-identifying statements came in response to the Jewish leaders' direct question: "How long will you keep us in suspense? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly" (John 10:24).
“I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me. But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one." (John 10:25-30)

[duffyd]

The Encyclopedia Britannica uses 20,000 words to describe Jesus—more than for Aristotle, Cicero, Alexander, Julius Caesar, Buddha, Confucius, Muhammed, and Napoleon Bonaparte combined. There is unequaled and undeniable proof that Jesus of Nazareth walked this earth some two thousand years ago.
Yet, our mythicist friends can't believe HE lived. If HE didn't, somebody pulled off quite the hoax.

[Bored chemist]

You and yours insult Christians non-stop for doing the very things you do..

Actually, we were insulting Christians for doing evil things like witch burning and child molesting.Would you like to cite your evidence for the idea that we are doing those things, or are you (once again) just saying stuff that's not true?

[Bored chemist]

There is unequaled and undeniable proof that Jesus of Nazareth walked this earth some two thousand years ago.

And again., you say that, but it's not true.
Show me a single contemporary  coin with his head on it and I will accept that he's at least getting to nearly as well supported as Nero.

The Encyclopedia Britannica uses 20,000 words to describe Jesus

Argument by authority isn't valid.
Why present it?

And it devotes about 300 words to King Arthur who definitely didn't exist.