[evan_au]

what nitwit decided to use the same wavelength for both?

It was an international agreement in 1947 that the 2.4 GHz band should be reserved for "Industrial, Scientific and Medical" (ISM) purposes.
- Because it didn't need a specific license for each device, it was later adopted for WiFi computer communication
- I have seen a videoconference session freeze because someone turned on the microwave.
- I would be even more worried if your pacemaker froze because someone turned on the microwave (not that pacemakers use the ISM band, I would think...).

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_radio_band

[Osogovo]

Do you think that 5G internet will be harmful in any way to humans or nature?
Can you help?

if there were health risks with 4g for sure there will be with 5g, how big it depend on the sensitivity of one organism to emf radiation, but also the amount of exposure to the mw'radiation ...

[Colin2B]

if there were health risks with 4g for sure there will be with 5g,

That doesn’t actually follow.
However, there were no known risks from 4G at the exposure levels we experienced and there have been none identified with 5G.
One area to look is those who work with the technology and get higher exposure levels than the general population. Telecom companies are very safety conscious, as are worker’s unions, and the health of the technicians is monitored.

[Osogovo]

That doesn’t actually follow.
However, there were no known risks from 4G at the exposure levels we experienced and there have been none identified with 5G.

look indoctrination comes from mainstream media blackout on the risks, tho RTAmerica became unbiased extra in this respect ...

[Bored chemist]

look indoctrination comes from mainstream media

Really?
Where did you get your indoctrination from?

[evan_au]

Where did you get your indoctrination from?

RT (= Russian state-run TV)

[Osogovo]

@evan_au as I am aware RTA on head with the late Lary King was independent on behalf of show editorial, it had nothing to do with the news RT agency and the news segment in RTAmerica .. anyway if both of You think that these allegations about 5g safety skim from Dafna Tachover as attorney that sued FCC in usA are just speculations then You are 5g biased ... these are big concerns if indeed WHO and usA regulatory bodies are corrupt and possessed by the telecom industry! bashing me will not change the fact that mainstream meadia are silent on the matter!

excerpt from the interview:

Jan 29, 2020 ~ RTA ~ Corporations push dangerous 5G, US gets sued​

senior attorney and director of the 5G program at Children’s Health Defense joins RT America’s Michele Greenstein (in for Rick Sanchez)
...
you're not going to be surprised to learn that the World Health Organization i.e. the head of the EMF project in the WHO is a wireless industry funded person, and the World Health Organization the IARC Department (which is responsible for classifying carcinogen classified in 2012 cell phones and wireless radiation including radiation from cell phones cell it's Wi-Fi and smart meters as a 2b carcinogen as a possible carcinogen) IARC decided that it's only a possible carcinogen and does not get a higher classification because while they do have enough epidemiological studies that showing a correlation between increased use of cellphones to increase rates of brain tumors, they (said) do not have enough animal studies, so now when we do have the animal studies, the NTP study and there is another study which is called the Ramazan Institute study from Italy a six million euros study that found exactly the same result as the NTP study, and nevertheless there is no change in policy so unfortunately those organizations around the world that are responsible to protect public health are mitigated by corporate power and money including the FCC in the United States government Federal Communication Commission which is responsible to regulate this topic in the United States, the FCC is headed by Ajit Pie who is a verizon attorney, also Brendan Carr who has been in the CTA which is the Wireless Industry Lobby Association, and other people and a member of the CTA are basically connected to the wireless industry, so those who are responsible and entrusted with protecting the health and safety of the people and the children of this country and around the world are basically controlled by corporate power and money ...

[Bored chemist]

you're not going to be surprised to learn that the World Health Organization i.e. the head of the EMF project in the WHO is a wireless industry funded person,

Nobody who thinks it through will be surprised about that.
The people who know about EMR and its effect on people will be people who work in the industry.
So what?

[Bored chemist]

bashing me will not change the fact that mainstream meadia are silent on the matter!

That's not a fact.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9160241/Global-rollout-5G-networks-halted-thoroughly-tested-expert-claims.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/05/17/electromagnetic-radiation-power-lines-phone-masts-poses-credible/

[Osogovo]

one thing is knowing, completely different To Do something about ...

in this respect media are definitely silent , but for triviality You will hear them regularly shouting, even reports from here and there on wifi risks are not at all Alarming, aside that in the societies there no regular public scientific debates as pro and contra arguments or how any risks to be avoided, on top the public is not educated on good practice of wifi use etc.

[Bored chemist]

Have you noticed that , since 4G came to be popular, people aren't dying like the predictions said they would?

[charles1948]

Wasn't there once a shoe-company which used to boast of having X-ray machines in its shops.

The idea was that when you went into the shop, looking to get a pair of shoes that would fit your foot, you put your foot on the machine, which X-rayed your foot. And so enabled you, swiftly and efficiently, to get a perfect fit.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

[Osogovo]

here we talk about risks from long exposure similarly as long'term risks of m'rna editing of the cells, tho that dont means that these technologies are instant death, but have obviously risks in itself that should be mitigated in proper way instead introducing them as normal ...

[Bored chemist]

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Someone could swap the X-ray tube for a mobile phone.
Then it wouldn't work.
Because X-rays are not the same as radio waves.

(And it doesn't help when people muddle them up).

[Bored chemist]

rna editing of the cells

... does not happen as a consequence of radio waves.

[alancalverd]

Wasn't there once a shoe-company which used to boast of having X-ray machines in its shops.

The idea was that when you went into the shop, looking to get a pair of shoes that would fit your foot, you put your foot on the machine, which X-rayed your foot. And so enabled you, swiftly and efficiently, to get a perfect fit.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Curiously, although the radiation dose to the shop staff was significant and measurable, I've not seen any epidemiological followup from this well-characterised occupational exposure. Fascination with the machines did however prompt me to study radiology physics  in  later life!