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Is the speed of light constant?

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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #20 on: 01/06/2020 11:43:50 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 01/06/2020 11:06:35
Granted that ε and μ are frequency-dependent in a medium, as noted by Newton*, but that still doesn't address Halc's assertion that the propagation speed of light depends on the speed of the medium.

*Another mystery. Newton bought his prism from a stall in Cambridge market (the market still exists and is reputedly the oldest 7-day charter market in Europe). If nobody had noticed refractive dispersal before 1666, why was anyone making and selling glass prisms in a general market?   
People had noticed it.
They even made toy prisms to show it.
Newton Studied it.
Quote from: alancalverd on 31/05/2020 13:28:03
Not sure you have grasped the right end of the stick there, BC.
You forgot to say what stick you were talking about.

The idea of a refractive index can be thought of by saying that light travels at C, but, only when it's between molecules.
When it hits one, it is trapped (very briefly) then released.



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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #21 on: 01/06/2020 14:50:17 »
I think Halc means the Fizeau experiment with light through moving liquids.
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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #22 on: 01/06/2020 15:12:48 »
Aha! I am enlightened!
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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #23 on: 01/06/2020 18:09:32 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 01/06/2020 15:12:48
Aha! I am enlightened!
So, you’ve seen the light, hopefully at constant speed!
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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #24 on: 01/06/2020 18:13:42 »
Quote from: evan_au on 01/06/2020 10:33:53
- As it travels through the extremely good vacuum of intergalactic space, the low frequencies travel slightly slower than the high frequencies
Afaik, the low frequencies are affected less by dielectric media than high frequency light. Blue light is deflected further by prism than red light.
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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #25 on: 01/06/2020 18:20:21 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/06/2020 11:43:50
People had noticed it.
They even made toy prisms to show it.
Newton Studied it.
Similar thing happened with magnet. People made many interesting things without understanding how they work.
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Re: Is the speed of light constant?
« Reply #26 on: 01/06/2020 18:36:41 »
Quote from: evan_au on 01/06/2020 10:33:53
- So sunlight passing through water droplets in the air are diffracted by (slightly) different angles
- This separates out sunlight into its constituent rainbow of colors
In the case of rainbow, it is refraction instead of diffraction which produces color separation.
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