[alancalverd]

On the graph, there are about 30 times more admissions for over 50s. For them to be a minority yadyyadyyada?

No, 30 times more per 100,000. Read the words, as well as looking at the pictures.

[Petrochemicals]

On the graph, there are about 30 times more admissions for over 50s. For them to be a minority yadyyadyyada?

No, 30 times more per 100,000. Read the words, as well as looking at the pictures.

Yes per 100K, RE. the yadiyadayada. The per 100k meaning at 30 times meaning there would have to be a 30 times greater populace under 50 for them to be considered a majority going by the per100k rate.

[alancalverd]

The graph you showed doesn't have an "over 50" line. What it does show, if you multiply it by the population in each of its bizarre cohorts, is that people of working age account for about half of the hospital admissions

[Petrochemicals]

The graph you showed doesn't have an "over 50" line. What it does show, if you multiply it by the population in each of its bizarre cohorts, is that people of working age account for about half of the hospital admissions

It's a close enough number to cause you trouble though?  Plus I do not believe half hospital admissions are under 67, let alone under 50. The retirement age is increasing because a large part of the population is over 65 these days. As I said earlier maybe it's because the majority of fatalities are over which ever age threshold suits you.

[alancalverd]

What you believe is of no interest to the NHS or the Treasury. Statistics do not trouble me - I just avoid becoming one.

[Petrochemicals]

What you believe is of no interest to the NHS or the Treasury. Statistics do not trouble me - I just avoid becoming one.

Anything to add about about hitler?

[alancalverd]

I fail to see the relevance. Please enlighten me.

[charles1948]

What you believe is of no interest to the NHS or the Treasury. Statistics do not trouble me - I just avoid becoming one.

Anything to add about about hitler?

I see Godwin's Law has struck again!

[Glenballs]

I presume that's not so much political ambition as just innate evil.

That's a very fine line to draw. The veneer is so thin that politicians have to shave very carefully.

The Oxford vaccine has been approved this morning, so my question to ask is how long till the pandemic is over

[Colin2B]

The Oxford vaccine has been approved this morning, so my question to ask is how long till the pandemic is over

Not easy to estimate as we don’t have full information yet.
Some indication that there was not enough clear data to approve the half-dose, full-dose idea and tactics appear to have changed to giving the first dose to as many people as possible. At best we will get 70% protection after 2nd dose administered after 12 weeks. Given the new variant, I would say many months of misery still.

@alancalverd @Bored chemist have you seen any data on protection given by first full dose only?
I’m going to have to go back over the research reports as I can’t remember. Perhaps @chris knows

[Glenballs]

The Oxford vaccine has been approved this morning, so my question to ask is how long till the pandemic is over

Not easy to estimate as we don’t have full information yet.
Some indication that there was not enough clear data to approve the half-dose, full-dose idea and tactics appear to have changed to giving the first dose to as many people as possible. At best we will get 70% protection after 2nd dose administered after 12 weeks. Given the new variant, I would say many months of misery still.

@alancalverd @Bored chemist have you seen any data on protection given by first full dose only?
I’m going to have to go back over the research reports as I can’t remember. Perhaps @chris knows

How long will the restrictions last then

[Colin2B]

How long will the restrictions last then

we don’t have full information yet

[alancalverd]

No chance. Mid-summer is the best professional estimate for a rational lifting of restrictions.

Not that "rational" has anything to do with it. My gloomy expectation is a general relaxation in March followed by a tsunami as the virus adapts to the low priority groups. But who puts evolution, experience and common sense before  political opportunism and bravado?   

[Glenballs]

No chance. Mid-summer is the best professional estimate for a rational lifting of restrictions.

Not that "rational" has anything to do with it. My gloomy expectation is a general relaxation in March followed by a tsunami as the virus adapts to the low priority groups. But who puts evolution, experience and common sense before  political opportunism and bravado?

Matt Hancock has said the spring so it that right

[Glenballs]

How long will the restrictions last then

we don’t have full information yet

Matt Hancock has said the spring

[Bored chemist]

Matt Hancock has said the spring so it that right

Does he have a history of making good predictions/ decisions?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9029785/Matt-Hancocks-10-cringe-inducing-moments.html

[alancalverd]

Matt Hancock has said the spring so it that right

See "political opportunism and bravado".

The first rule of politics is never make a promise you can't break. The second rule is that any failure is someone else's fault.

[Glenballs]

Matt Hancock has said the spring so it that right

Does he have a history of making good predictions/ decisions?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9029785/Matt-Hancocks-10-cringe-inducing-moments.html

But they have no excuse now they have all the vaccine available millions to do the whole population

[Glenballs]

Matt Hancock has said the spring so it that right

See "political opportunism and bravado".

The first rule of politics is never make a promise you can't break. The second rule is that any failure is someone else's fault.
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They have no excuse now the millions of vaccine available to get the whole population done

[Bored chemist]

But they have no excuse

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