[bearnard1212 (OP)]

You can distil water with waste heat from your body, or make a solar still. Fresh water on Mars begins to boil at 10 °C, and condenses rapidly with an average outdoor temperature of about -40. And for all we know, the ice caps may be inherently sterile or may contain something we could cultivate and eat if we moved it to the equator.

The northern lowlands comprise about one-third of the surface of Mars and are relatively flat

Colonisation of Mars is beginning to look like a job for a man with a tractor and a greenhouse - Essex Man!

Tonight's edition of Jimmy's Farm comes to you from Newest Harlow....
"Yeah, Jamie, we had a few spuds left over from when they were filming The Martian, so I knocked up a low-pressure  still from some rocket scrap and made a lovely poteen...."

To colonize this planet we still have to figure out a lot of stuff. Our technology is too weak for that mission now.
 I have some doubts that we can do that now or in this decade like Musk claims.

[alancalverd]

I have a small tractor and a greenhouse. Just need a big rocket, like the ones they have already sent to Mars. An electric tractor would be better, though - like the Mars Rovers, perhaps?

[charles1948]

I have a small tractor and a greenhouse. Just need a big rocket, like the ones they have already sent to Mars. An electric tractor would be better, though - like the Mars Rovers, perhaps?

Instead of going to Mars, couldn't you create a Martian environment inside your greenhouse.

[hamdani yusuf]

Instead of going to Mars, couldn't you create a Martian environment inside your greenhouse.

The point of colonizing Mars is to liberate humanity from dependency to a specific space object, namely earth. AFAIK, Experiment of artificial biosphere has been done in Hawaii.

[bearnard1212 (OP)]

Instead of going to Mars, couldn't you create a Martian environment inside your greenhouse.

The point of colonizing Mars is to liberate humanity from dependency to a specific space object, namely earth. AFAIK, Experiment of artificial biosphere has been done in Hawaii.

You are talking about Mars` colonization like it`s a piece of cake. The part about the liberation of humanity from dependency to a specific space object sounds great. But I don`t think that Mars is exactly the right planet that can substitute Earth and devinetely at that time and at least in the decade.

[hamdani yusuf]

You are talking about Mars` colonization like it`s a piece of cake. The part about the liberation of humanity from dependency to a specific space object sounds great. But I don`t think that Mars is exactly the right planet that can substitute Earth and devinetely at that time and at least in the decade.

The reason why we need to start efforts for Mars colonization as soon as possible is precisely because it's hard, hence would likely take decades or even centuries. Therefore we shouldn't waste time and risking of not having enough time when it's needed.

[hamdani yusuf]

Mars colonization is just a stepping stone to achieve bigger goal, which is reaching the next level of civilization in Kardashev scale.
https://www.wired.com/story/jeff-bezos-blue-origin/?mbid=social_twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&s=03

[bearnard1212 (OP)]

You are talking about Mars` colonization like it`s a piece of cake. The part about the liberation of humanity from dependency to a specific space object sounds great. But I don`t think that Mars is exactly the right planet that can substitute Earth and devinetely at that time and at least in the decade.

The reason why we need to start efforts for Mars colonization as soon as possible is precisely because it's hard, hence would likely take decades or even centuries. Therefore we shouldn't waste time and risking of not having enough time when it's needed.

It will take decades. It will take decades to invent appropriate technology and figure out a lot of issues to get there and survive. However, I agree that we need go further in space exploration area.

[LookOut2021]

A thing we have to consider too, if we wanna make a living on mars, would also be the irreversible consequences on our human biology. We can mimic a lot in closed facilities: atmosphere, ecosystems, probably even social live if we manage to get enough people there - but there's one thing we can't mimic and that's gravity. Mars only has a third of earth's gravity. Great for earthborns on mars probably, not so much for marsborns on earth. If you were born on mars or even spend a lot of time there, a return to earth might be fatal for you.

All I wanna say is, that if we - humans - colonize mars, our paths WILL split. An earth human can live on mars, but a mars human probably can't live on earth due to its high gravity. A great motivational factor if you are already there, but if you're still undecided, you have to keep in mind, that a stay on mars for at least ten years might be a one-way trip. No return, no familiy visits.

[bearnard1212 (OP)]

A thing we have to consider too, if we wanna make a living on mars, would also be the irreversible consequences on our human biology. We can mimic a lot in closed facilities: atmosphere, ecosystems, probably even social live if we manage to get enough people there - but there's one thing we can't mimic and that's gravity. Mars only has a third of earth's gravity. Great for earthborns on mars probably, not so much for marsborns on earth. If you were born on mars or even spend a lot of time there, a return to earth might be fatal for you.

All I wanna say is, that if we - humans - colonize mars, our paths WILL split. An earth human can live on mars, but a mars human probably can't live on earth due to its high gravity. A great motivational factor if you are already there, but if you're still undecided, you have to keep in mind, that a stay on mars for at least ten years might be a one-way trip. No return, no familiy visits.

I consider that we can use Mars not for living aims. If Mars has some fossils we can use for our benefits, we can use red planet for that purpose. But now we can only dream and disscus that as our technology is too weak for that.

[Zer0]

There is an old proverb...
" Do Not keep All your Eggs in the same Basket ".
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If WE have the inert capability & potential, then WE shall Survive...
If Not, then We go Extinct...Simple!
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[bearnard1212 (OP)]

There is an old proverb...
" Do Not keep All your Eggs in the same Basket ".
👍

If WE have the inert capability & potential, then WE shall Survive...
If Not, then We go Extinct...Simple!
✌️

Copyrights/Credits/Thanks -
Secondary Account Channel/YouTube.
🙏

According to the data we have about the environment of the red planet we wont survive there. In case we will not build special  capsule which will remind the Earth`s environment and can give us the opportunity to live the life we do on Earth.

[Hanni32]

I think that we should think about it. We don't know what will happen in the future and furthermore I find it really interesting to find out something about Mars colonization.

[hamdani yusuf]

I hope that Mars colonization can deliberate more humans from mythical beliefs and superstitions left over from dark ages.

[bearnard1212 (OP)]

I hope that Mars colonization can deliberate more humans from mythical beliefs and superstitions left over from dark ages.

Nevertheless, these mythical beliefs will desapear not in the nearest future as Mars colonization. As I have already mention here for a several times that our technology is too weak and I guess we need a few decades or even more at least to travell there like we do with our Moon.

[Zer0]

What WE do Not have in Skill...
WE shall make up for it with our sheer Will!
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P.S. - They tried to Enslave US with Religious codes of conduct, They tried to Stop US from thinking for Ourselves, They almost buried US Alive!
But The Fools did Not Realize...WE were Seeds!
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[Professor Mega-Mind]

Mr. Beardnard ,
You are so right , we can't even figure out how to make an effective poop-recycler yet !
We also haven't solved the extreme abrasion problem with the exo-dust .
And god help any 'stro-nuts that have to rely on a theoretical fuel-refinery , a hundred-million miles from any real technical support !
*Talk about Tech-Ready-Level-0 !
**.Reference Post below : quora.com/Guys-give-it-to-me-straight-we-ain-t-going-to-Mars-Are-we/answer/Derek-Hendricks-7?ch

[hamdani yusuf]

Mr. Beardnard ,
You are so right , we can't even figure out how to make an effective poop-recycler yet !
We also haven't solved the extreme abrasion problem with the exo-dust .
And god help any 'stro-nuts that have to rely on a theoretical fuel-refinery , a hundred-million miles from any real technical support !
*Talk about Tech-Ready-Level-0 !
P.M.

Do those things answer the question?

[Professor Mega-Mind]

My Reply addresses it in this sense :
Do we need it so badly that we turn our brave astronauts into freeze-dried mummies , and push a humiliating disaster upon the entire watching planet Earth ?

Also , it specifically addresses the two Replies directly above it .

[hamdani yusuf]

My Reply addresses it in this sense :
Do we need it so badly that we turn our brave astronauts into freeze-dried mummies , and push a humiliating disaster upon the entire watching planet Earth ?

Also , it specifically addresses the two Replies directly above it .

If you think that something is important enough, you'll do it even if it's hard, costly, or risky.
But you won't do it if you know for sure that it's impossible. You should try to find some better alternatives.