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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #100 on: 29/05/2021 19:41:54 »
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 29/05/2021 18:00:16
I admit, that I got slighly irritated during my discussion with Origin, since I got quite tired of endlessly repeating things, that should be quite obvious to any one,
Let's not forget that the things you were repeating were obviously wrong to anyone with any knowledge of physics and quite frankly the ideas were rather stupid.

I guess we have completely hijacked this thread, but I guess it is OK since this thread is as idiotic as the thread we are now discussing...
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #101 on: 30/05/2021 02:21:12 »
Quote from: Origin on 29/05/2021 19:41:54
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 29/05/2021 18:00:16
I admit, that I got slighly irritated during my discussion with Origin, since I got quite tired of endlessly repeating things, that should be quite obvious to any one,
Let's not forget that the things you were repeating were obviously wrong to anyone with any knowledge of physics and quite frankly the ideas were rather stupid.

I guess we have completely hijacked this thread, but I guess it is OK since this thread is as idiotic as the thread we are now discussing...

Sorry to dissapoint your expectations, but this is only how you're seeing all of this
Le's just say that in this particular case i don't exactly trust in your superior understanding of this subject, since basic knowlege regarding relative motion is enough to see, that you're just unable to comprehend the simple idea, that every observer CAN exist simultaneusly in a moving and in a rest frame.

That's why before I admit , that my model actually violates my own postulates, I want to hear couple other opinions from people with some authority...
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #102 on: 30/05/2021 02:31:43 »
Colin2B seems to be a reasonable guy and has some knowledge of this subject - I would like to hear,, what he has to say about this. If he will be able to prove me, that you was right all along, I will "officialy" admit your superiority over me
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #103 on: 30/05/2021 02:49:20 »
Quote from: Origin on 29/05/2021 19:41:54
I guess we have completely hijacked this thread...

Yes, so let's stop that right now and drop the matter. If you two want to argue about a closed thread, do it over PMs.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #104 on: 06/06/2021 15:55:52 »
The duration of the total phase of a solar eclipse is 7.5 minutes. The duration of the total phase of the lunar eclipse is 108 minutes. The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km. Therefore, the diameter of the Moon is 12 742 * (7.5 / 108) = 885 km.



Additional evidence.


The Unsolved Mystery of the Earth Blobs



The coincidence of the angular sizes of the Sun and the Moon indicates that their sizes are proportional to the distances relative to the Earth. In addition, the Sun and the Moon have the same axial rotation periods - 27 days. In the earth's mantle there are two huge diametrically opposite formations (one is larger, the other is smaller), both are displaced to the east. On the surface of the Earth there are two huge diametrically opposite tracks (one larger, the other smaller), both shifted to the east. The ratio of the sizes of the Sun and the Moon is approximately 3 to 1.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #105 on: 06/06/2021 17:48:53 »
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 06/06/2021 15:55:52
the Sun and the Moon have the same axial rotation periods - 27 days.
No
25 is not 27

Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 06/06/2021 15:55:52
The duration of the total phase of a solar eclipse is 7.5 minutes.
Or just a few seconds, depending where you are.

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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #106 on: 06/06/2021 17:59:37 »
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 28/05/2021 20:53:49
Have nothing to add. Topic closed. Thanks for participating in the discussion.

Remember when you said this? There are still issues that we brought up about your model that haven't been resolved. So let's focus on that before you start a discussion about something else.

You still need to provide a citation that science is about 100% knowledge of whether something is true or false. You also have not addressed the fact that the gravitational fields of stars, galaxies, planets and so on cannot stop photons. The most they can do is red shift them, not dissipate them into nothingness.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #107 on: 06/06/2021 18:34:08 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/06/2021 17:48:53
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 06/06/2021 15:55:52
the Sun and the Moon have the same axial rotation periods - 27 days.
No
25 is not 27

Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 06/06/2021 15:55:52
The duration of the total phase of a solar eclipse is 7.5 minutes.
Or just a few seconds, depending where you are.

Quotes from Google.
1) The Sun rotates on its axis once in about 27 days.
2) The moon orbits the Earth once every 27.322 days. It also takes approximately 27 days for the moon to rotate once on its axis.
3) A total lunar eclipse can last as long as an hour and three-quarters, but for a solar total eclipse maximum duration of totality is only 71/2 minutes.

Diameter of the Moon is 12 742 * (7.5 / 108) = 885 km, and it exactly matches the size of the track between South America and Antarctica in the image above.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #108 on: 06/06/2021 18:36:35 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 06/06/2021 17:59:37
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 28/05/2021 20:53:49
Have nothing to add. Topic closed. Thanks for participating in the discussion.

Remember when you said this? There are still issues that we brought up about your model that haven't been resolved. So let's focus on that before you start a discussion about something else.

You still need to provide a citation that science is about 100% knowledge of whether something is true or false. You also have not addressed the fact that the gravitational fields of stars, galaxies, planets and so on cannot stop photons. The most they can do is red shift them, not dissipate them into nothingness.

Do you know what circumstantial (indirect) evidence is? So in my model of the Universe, there are already more than enough of them.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #109 on: 06/06/2021 20:48:35 »
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 06/06/2021 18:36:35
Do you know what circumstantial (indirect) evidence is?
Yes.

Do you know that people have been to the Moon and that, we therefore know where it is and how big?

Or are you the sort of ... *individual*... who claims we never went there?
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #110 on: 06/06/2021 20:50:29 »
No, you did not directly address what I said. I'm waiting for you to refute the fact that gravitational red shift is not sufficient to stop photons. If you can't refute it, then you need to recognize that your model is wrong.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #111 on: 25/06/2021 19:11:55 »
This is not a theory and not a topic for "That CAN'T be true!" section.
This is a very weird fact and my version of explanation of that fact.

Here is a link to a video with a selection of episodes in which astronauts were hanging on ropes, and an animation of one of the episodes.
Hidden ropes on ISS.


For some reason, astronauts on the ISS are hanging on ropes - this is a fact. The ropes are hidden by video editing, that is, they tried to hide it - this is a fact. Why would they?

My version. I think that there are no people on space stations due to the likelihood of being destroyed by a meteorite or space debris at any time. Such a probability, although negligible, but given the complete absence of any protection against destruction by a meteorite, it makes no sense, both the stay of people in the earth's orbit, and the colonization of space (Moon, Mars ...) in principle.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #112 on: 25/06/2021 19:36:36 »
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 25/06/2021 19:11:55
For some reason, astronauts on the ISS are hanging on ropes - this is a fact.
No they are not, and no, it is not.
And if one of the mods could move this thread to "That can't be true", that would improve the site a little.
Thanks
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #113 on: 25/06/2021 23:37:54 »
There are ropes on the ISS, so that astronauts can move around on the outside, without floating away into space.

But just playing a short video segment backwards and forwards does not demonstrate that there are ropes that have been removed by editing.
- It shows that there is cyclic motion that has been added by editing

Anyway, astronauts posing for a video would try to maintain themselves in the center of the image, rather than drifting out of the field of view...

Conclusion: It can't be true!
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #114 on: 26/06/2021 02:05:40 »
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 25/06/2021 19:11:55
For some reason, astronauts on the ISS are hanging on ropes - this is a fact. The ropes are hidden by video editing, that is, they tried to hide it - this is a fact. Why would they?
I see one astronauts finger get momentarily hooked on another astronauts pocket.  You see a grand conspiracy involving space flight, governments and science in general.
I think you have an over active imagination. 
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #115 on: 26/06/2021 11:20:00 »
It is a well kept secret that gravity acts sideways in space. There are two men in white coats outside my door as I write. 
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #116 on: 26/06/2021 11:46:04 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/06/2021 11:20:00
It is a well kept secret that gravity acts sideways in space. There are two men in white coats outside my door as I write. 
I'd agree with the OP, but there's a bunch of men in a black helicopter circling above my house.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #117 on: 26/06/2021 17:55:30 »
I don't know what you think that animated GIF is supposed to show.

Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 25/06/2021 19:11:55
I think that there are no people on space stations

That's a conspiracy theory, in which case it absolutely does belong in "That CAN'T be true!"
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #118 on: 26/06/2021 19:00:46 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 26/06/2021 17:55:30
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 25/06/2021 19:11:55
I think that there are no people on space stations

That's a conspiracy theory, in which case it absolutely does belong in "That CAN'T be true!"
And can get the OP banned if he persists in this ridiculous nonsense.
If he’s right I’ll eat my tinfoil hat.
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Re: The nature of light and the size of the Universe.
« Reply #119 on: 26/06/2021 20:56:29 »
Quote from: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 25/06/2021 19:11:55
Such a probability, although negligible, but given the complete absence of any protection against destruction by a meteorite, it makes no sense, both the stay of people in the earth's orbit, and the colonization of space (Moon, Mars ...) in principle.
The overwhelming majority of meteorites in LEO are like grains of sand. They have Whipple bumpers on the ISS that catch meteorites of that size:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipple_shield

If they didn't have those, then they would be punctured quite regularly.
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