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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #20 on: 29/05/2021 14:53:16 »

Hello once again Captain!
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If you just looked back n read thru the OP, you'd Realize you were asked a very simple basic question...
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You mentioned ' You Do Not Have Time! '
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" IF ONLY " you'd have managed to spend 30seconds...
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Perhaps then, The OP would have moved forward in a positive direction.

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Look into the Mirror Good ol' Capitan...What do you see?
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Reason being i mentioned ' MNRAS '
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #21 on: 29/05/2021 14:55:53 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 14:49:04
The logic of math and the universal construct proves the existence of the logical Creator.
Where did He come from?
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #22 on: 29/05/2021 15:29:25 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 14:55:53
Where did He come from?
It is not a "He" or "She". It just is. It is the only reality. "I Am That I Am",
Quote from: Zer0 on 29/05/2021 14:53:16
Why Not direct it towards the Right Path...
(Hint - Royal Astronomical Society)
As I noted in the original post, I have sent this to every astrophysicist/astronomer at every English-speaking university worldwide (382 in total). 75% of them have downloaded the paper since I sent the first formula on 3/8.
Quote from: Zer0 on 29/05/2021 14:53:16
Look into the Mirror Good ol' Capitan...What do you see?
Alot of Whites, isn't it?
What a load of racist filth. Hey moderator, do you folks allow racist comments here?

For those who are interested in such things, the Journal of Cosmology has a couple of volumes dedicated to essays on the Universal Cosmic Consciousness.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #23 on: 29/05/2021 15:59:05 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 15:29:25
It is not a "He" or "She". It just is. It is the only reality. "I Am That I Am",
We both know that isn't an answer.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #24 on: 29/05/2021 16:23:58 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 15:59:05
We both know that isn't an answer
I don't know what you think you know, but that is the answer. We, all living things, are in Its image, not in form, but in spirit. It is why we hate boredom and fear loneliness. We, all living things, are how It escapes Its horrible eternal loneliness and passes Its eternity. It is losing Itself here.

All the great teachers taught this: If you would know the Creator, know yourself. The truth, kingdom of heaven, etc. lies within you.

Only seekers find the truth. The rest are lost in the illusion, which is the purpose of the Creation; the Creator loses Itself here. 
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #25 on: 29/05/2021 16:32:57 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 16:23:58
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 15:59:05
We both know that isn't an answer
I don't know what you think you know, but that is the answer. We, all living things, are in Its image, not in form, but in spirit. It is why we hate boredom and fear loneliness. We, all living things, are how It escapes Its horrible eternal loneliness and passes Its eternity. It is losing Itself here.

All the great teachers taught this: If you would know the Creator, know yourself. The truth, kingdom of heaven, etc. lies within you.

Only seekers find the truth. The rest are lost in the illusion, which is the purpose of the Creation; the Creator loses Itself here. 
None of which has anything to do with answering my question.
where did He, She or It come from?
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #26 on: 29/05/2021 16:41:51 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 14:55:53
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 14:49:04
The logic of math and the universal construct proves the existence of the logical Creator.
Where did He come from?

Well, nothing can be certain in such metaphysical and philosophopial aspects of the existence itself. But if I would point out the most possible answer in terms of science, I would say, that He was "born" in the chaotic and endless field of primodial superposition of all possible states. Why or how could  this happen? Simply, the probability of a self-aware form of existence became at some point probable enough to collapse into a determined physical state... You can call this as the "Book Of Quantum Genesis" :)
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #27 on: 29/05/2021 16:47:12 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 16:32:57
None of which has anything to do with answering my question.
where did He, She or It come from?
I answered you. It is eternal and was not created. It did not begin, and it cannot end.

It is said we have eternal life because the life animating us, creating us from within, is eternal. Not our silly little egos, the life itself.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #28 on: 29/05/2021 16:51:39 »
And when it comes to describing the endless field of primodial superposition, I would do it using a binary code:

1 Absolute existence "I AM"
0. Absolute non-existence

And with all the infinite possibilities of existence fitting between those two absolute states... 
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #29 on: 29/05/2021 17:26:33 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 15:29:25
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 14:55:53
Where did He come from?
It is not a "He" or "She". It just is. It is the only reality. "I Am That I Am",

Perhaps you should consider quitting smokin dat sh!t.
If Reality's disagreeing with You, it ain't Reality which is at Fault.
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Why Not direct it towards the Right Path...
(Hint - Royal Astronomical Society)
As I noted in the original post, I have sent this to every astrophysicist/astronomer at every English-speaking university worldwide (382 in total). 75% of them have downloaded the paper since I sent the first formula on 3/8.

Downloading is Not Equal to Approval.
Mia Khalifa can easily Beat that.
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Look into the Mirror Good ol' Capitan...What do you see?
Alot of Whites, isn't it?
What a load of racist filth. Hey moderator, do you folks allow racist comments here?

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I was Referring to the hair & beard.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #30 on: 29/05/2021 17:36:31 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 14:49:04
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 29/05/2021 11:15:51
Ok, I probably got carried away too much.
I don't think so. Very well put. Enough of the ludicrous, Godless science. The logic of math and the universal construct proves the existence of the logical Creator.
So another religious nut job playing at science.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #31 on: 29/05/2021 17:49:09 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 16:47:12
I answered you. It is eternal and was not created. It did not begin, and it cannot end.
OK.
Why can't "the universe" or, at least" whatever physical phenomenon cause the universe" be the same thing?

Fundamentally this discussion is at odds with the title of the thread "God id it" is not a new model of the universe, it's a very old, and very unhelpful one.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #32 on: 29/05/2021 17:59:09 »
Quote from: captcass on 28/05/2021 02:19:56
Hi Colin. Long time. Glad you are well.

I am not trying to get you to change your mind, as I understand your thinking, it is "new".
Hi Cass, yes long time no see and you certainly have been busy.
I’ve changed your title.

The New Theories section was originally conceived as a serious section and if, for example, Alan Guth had first posted his expansion paper here, this is the section it would have been directed to and it certainly contained a lot of maths!

Unfortunately this section does attract a lot of cranks and pseudoscience, but it is certainly the right place to discuss new ideas.

Let us know if you have any positive responses from leading astronomers.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #33 on: 29/05/2021 18:28:26 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/05/2021 17:49:09
Why can't "the universe" or, at least" whatever physical phenomenon cause the universe" be the same thing?
This is pantheism. Einstein felt that the universe itself might be alive somehow. The trouble with that concept is there is no cause and effect. However, that does take us back to a UCC. "Split a rock and I am there".
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Let us know if you have any positive responses from leading astronomers.
Hi Colin. Thanks. I swear, everything I write these days I have to go back through to change teh to the. I have had one phone call from an astrophysicist. He had me read Toomre's '71? paper so we could talk in terms of those models. I told him they didn't work because the perception was wrong. It is not bodies moving through an empty space. It is an evolving continuum, the quantum field. It was while explaining that to him that I realized why galaxies are spirals, cosmic hurricanes in the CMB, actually. I explain that in more detail in the paper. I expect to be talking with him again soon. It was after that that I found the vis-aviva solution and I know he is digesting things.
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not a new model of the universe,
No one has presented this model before. The fact that it originates with the Creator has no bearing on it.

I am not discussing "religion" here. That is something entirely different. Religion is merely what we do or don't do regularly for our own well being and the well being of the community at large, along with ceremonies intended to induce a spiritual and respectful feeling in people. It is NOT spirituality.

If the UCC is the cause of causes, and we do not take that into account in our view of the universe, and our science, then we will never find true answers and fulfill our true potential as a species. For instance, it solves non-locality. Alice and Bob, being different points of view of the same overall being, are harmonized, like all our lives are, and must be, for the continuum to evolve coherently. .
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #34 on: 29/05/2021 18:50:01 »
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This is pantheism.
No.
It is atheism.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #35 on: 29/05/2021 18:50:53 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 18:28:26
I swear, everything I write these days I have to go back through to change teh to the.
That may be the only thing we have in common.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #36 on: 29/05/2021 19:47:37 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 14:49:04
I don't think so. Very well put. Enough of the ludicrous, Godless science. The logic of math and the universal construct proves the existence of the logical Creator.
Yeah, you tell em!  I'll bet Jesus knows way more than Einstein ever knew about physics!
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #37 on: 29/05/2021 22:27:27 »
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It is atheism.
Not if it is alive. Did you know you are alive? Parts of the continuum are alive, except the continuum has no "parts", it is a continuum. If one "part" is alive, so is the whole thing.

Quote from: Origin on 29/05/2021 19:47:37
Jesus knows
Jesus knew our relationship to the Creator. So did others like him. He lived in the world of light. Shame the Romans deified him, but that's what Romans did (do?). I think it is sad you have no spiritual side and denigrate the great spiritual teachers. They all taught we have divine power when we have faith, which we do, and you can never take advantage of that. You don't get the red marbles unless you ask for them.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #38 on: 29/05/2021 22:33:33 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 18:28:26
I am not discussing "religion" here.
You certainly aren't discussing science.
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Re: Is this the new model of the Universe?
« Reply #39 on: 30/05/2021 00:00:39 »
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 22:27:27
Did you know you are alive?
I did and still do;
Quote from: captcass on 29/05/2021 22:27:27
I think it is sad you have no spiritual side and denigrate the great spiritual teachers.
How do you know I have no spiritual side?  Do only Christians have a spiritual side.
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