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Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #200 on: 25/11/2021 05:37:48 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 03:56:04
Simply put, antimatter represents the lifeless side of Schrödinger's paradox.
That is not correct.
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 03:56:04
More seriously. I presume from the start of an anti big bang.
What is an anti big bang?
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 03:56:04
During a high-energy collision, the particle pair annihilation detects the presence of antimatter through space-time.
That makes no sense.  You are saying a particle/antiparticle annihilation detects antimatter!  How can an annihilation detect something??
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 03:56:04
Origin, you will understand that during the movement of the particle and for my oscillator an alternation between potential energy and kinetic energy is done every quarter cycle.
I realize that you are talking about simple harmonic motion that can be seen in a pendulum or in a thought experiment where a mass is dropped into a shaft through the earth.  This is just high school level physics.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #201 on: 25/11/2021 05:53:24 »
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 05:37:48
What is an anti big bang?
Our universe has antimatter partner on the other side of the Big Bang, say physicists

Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 05:37:48
That makes no sense.  You are saying a particle/antiparticle annihilation detects antimatter!  How can an annihilation detect something??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-positron_annihilation

Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 05:37:48
I realize that you are talking about simple harmonic motion that can be seen in a pendulum or in a thought experiment where a mass is dropped into a shaft through the earth.  This is just high school level physics.
You realize a little late. Yes simple harmonic oscillator. Level 101. So why make a lot of it?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #202 on: 25/11/2021 08:45:41 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 05:53:24
Yes simple harmonic oscillator. Level 101. So why make a lot of it?
You started a whole thread about it.
You also seem to be adding some nonsense about antimatter.

Why do you keep doing that?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #203 on: 25/11/2021 10:35:20 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/11/2021 08:45:41
You started a whole thread about it.
And who's pretending not to understand for having written so many pages for a simple oscillator?

Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/11/2021 08:45:41
You also seem to be adding some nonsense about antimatter.

Why do you keep doing that?
In your opinion where antimatter is?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #204 on: 25/11/2021 11:24:51 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 10:35:20
And who's pretending not to understand for having written so many pages for a simple oscillator?
You.

I pointed out that it was a trivial system ages ago.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/07/2021 16:53:03
If you drilled a hole through the axis of the Earth from pole to pole, and put a long thin vacuum chamber in it then dropped an object into one end of that chamber , it would fall down the hole, picking up speed.
And it would be moving very fast when it reached the centre of the Earth so it would carry on going until it reached the other pole where it would stop, and then fall back down again
It would "bounce" back and to .
If the density of the Earth was constant (rather than increasing as you go down). the body would exhibit  simple harmonic motion.

As it did so, it would exchange potential for kinetic energy.
And so you could write that the gravitational potential energy - the kinetic energy =0


But it's not a very interesting system (and, of course, it's impossible).

I wonder if it's what the OP is on about.


You are still trying to pretend that it's something to do with antimatter.

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #205 on: 25/11/2021 12:56:55 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/11/2021 11:24:51
You are still trying to pretend that it's something to do with antimatter.
Trying to pretend that it's something to do with antimatter? Fortunately. Antimatter is an integral part of physics. So yes, placing it in the model is essential. As you do not know where the antimatter is located, then my explanation seems inevitably wrong to you.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #206 on: 25/11/2021 13:56:47 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 05:53:24
Our universe has antimatter partner on the other side of the Big Bang, say physicists
This site cannot be reached.
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 05:53:24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-positron_annihilation
I know what electron positron annihilation is, but this is nonsense:
"During a high-energy collision, the particle pair annihilation detects the presence of antimatter through space-time"
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 05:53:24
You realize a little late. Yes simple harmonic oscillator. Level 101. So why make a lot of it?
You seem to be trying to make a lot of it, but so far you have failed to do so.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #207 on: 25/11/2021 14:00:08 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 12:56:55
Antimatter is an integral part of physics. So yes, placing it in the model is essential.
Antimatter has nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 12:56:55
As you do not know where the antimatter is located, then my explanation seems inevitably wrong to you
What are you talking about?  That makes no sense.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #208 on: 25/11/2021 15:39:24 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 12:56:55
As you do not know where the antimatter is located,
There is essentially no antimatter anywhere on Earth  or within a billion miles of it.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #209 on: 25/11/2021 17:38:12 »
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 14:00:08
Antimatter has nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
Can you explain why?

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Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 12:56:55
As you do not know where the antimatter is located,
There is essentially no antimatter anywhere on Earth  or within a billion miles of it.
So I ask my question again. Where are you located antimatter in the universe?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #210 on: 25/11/2021 17:41:14 »
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 13:56:47
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 05:53:24
Our universe has antimatter partner on the other side of the Big Bang, say physicists
This site cannot be reached.
https://physicsworld.com/a/our-universe-has-antimatter-partner-on-the-other-side-of-the-big-bang-say-physicists/
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #211 on: 25/11/2021 18:17:25 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 17:41:14
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 13:56:47
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 05:53:24
Our universe has antimatter partner on the other side of the Big Bang, say physicists
This site cannot be reached.
https://physicsworld.com/a/our-universe-has-antimatter-partner-on-the-other-side-of-the-big-bang-say-physicists/
Did you not understand the 3rd and 4th words of that article?
It starts "Our universe could be..."

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Quote from: Origin on Today at 14:00:08
Antimatter has nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
Can you explain why?
That's not his job.
If you say they are related, it is your responsibility to show that they are.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #212 on: 26/11/2021 13:30:44 »
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 14:00:08
Antimatter has nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 17:38:12
Can you explain why?
For the same reason that a Buffy-tufted marmoset or a nimbostratus cloud have nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/11/2021 17:38:12
So I ask my question again. Where are you located antimatter in the universe?
There is almost no antimatter in the universe.  Antimatter is produced all the time but almost all of that is immediately annihilated by matter.  Where do you think it is?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #213 on: 26/11/2021 14:13:52 »
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 14:00:08
Antimatter has nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
As usual, you are wrong.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/11/2021 18:17:25
Did you not understand the 3rd and 4th words of that article?
It starts "Our universe could be..."
My oscillator could be a perfect example to explain how the universe works.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/11/2021 18:17:25
That's not his job.
If you say they are related, it is your responsibility to show that they are.
His job is to contradict without explaining why? Origin is not a real physicist.

Quote from: Origin on 26/11/2021 13:30:44
For the same reason that a Buffy-tufted marmoset or a nimbostratus cloud have nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
You are ridiculous.

Observing Matter-Antimatter Oscillations

Quote from: Origin on 26/11/2021 13:30:44
There is almost no antimatter in the universe.  Antimatter is produced all the time but almost all of that is immediately annihilated by matter.  Where do you think it is?
I have already answered that. On the other side of the big bang. In the antiuniverse.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #214 on: 26/11/2021 14:20:28 »
Origin, to prove to you that you're not up to date: https://www.innovationnewsnetwork.com/evidence-of-particles-oscillating-between-matter-and-antimatter/12418/
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #215 on: 26/11/2021 14:42:45 »
Here is a model that I presented several years ago:

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #216 on: 26/11/2021 15:04:13 »
OK, here's the (first) bit you didn't understand:
"D-mesons are the fourth in a quartet of neutral mesons to be observed oscillating into their antiparticle partners."
The critical bit is the word "neutral".
You can't do that with charged particles like the electrons and positrons in your picture. The charge can't "disapear" and then reverse itself.

Also, the oscillation is anything by simple harmonic.


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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #217 on: 26/11/2021 15:06:31 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 26/11/2021 14:13:52
Quote from: Origin on Today at 13:30:44
For the same reason that a Buffy-tufted marmoset or a nimbostratus cloud have nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.
You are ridiculous.
No, his criticism is perfectly reasonable.
Quote from: Kartazion on 26/11/2021 14:13:52
As usual, you are wrong.
Quote from: Kartazion on 26/11/2021 14:13:52
His job is to contradict without explaining why?
Well, you contradicted him and  didn't explain why he's wrong (you can't have done so; he is right) why shouldn't he?



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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #218 on: 26/11/2021 15:08:30 »
Fundamentally, you need to accept the way science works.
If you say " there is a link between antimatter oscillations and gravitational oscillations of a particle falling through a hole in the centre of the Earth" without saying why, and without showing evidence, you will get laughed at.

It isn't anyone else's job to show that you are wrong.
It is your responsibility to show that you are right.

You have not done so.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #219 on: 27/11/2021 00:21:03 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 26/11/2021 15:04:13
OK, here's the (first) bit you didn't understand:
"D-mesons are the fourth in a quartet of neutral mesons to be observed oscillating into their antiparticle partners."
The critical bit is the word "neutral".
You can't do that with charged particles like the electrons and positrons in your picture. The charge can't "disapear" and then reverse itself.

Also, the oscillation is anything by simple harmonic.

Meson–antimeson oscillations have also formed essential ingredients in the discovery of CP violation, a delicate, yet profound feature of our universe. These phenomena have been crucial for the evolution of the Standard Model of high energy physics and have more recently provided impressive validation for its CKM dynamics. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230956960_Matter-antimatter_oscillations_and_CP_violation_as_manifested_through_quantum_mysteries

PS: CKM means Cabibbo–Kobayashi–Maskawa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabibbo-Kobayashi-Maskawa_matrix

The meson is a hadron just like the proton or neutron. This means that it is valid for all particles subjected to the CP violation. Quantum chromodynamics is a perfect example of what I might call the oscillation of a single quark between two or three positions.

My picture is a derivative of the Feynman diagram which works very well with charges.

Here is an old model that I made:



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