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Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #260 on: 02/12/2021 18:57:26 »
Quote from: Origin on 02/12/2021 16:54:06
...As you move to the right (in the +X direction)...  As you move to the left (in the -X direction) ...
It is the direction of movement of the particle with the sign + or - following x which is interesting. Now pair it with the value of + or - of x with the sign of the electric charge of the particle. The antimatter and the matter is represented by this sign of the electric charge. For information in quantum mechanic the harmonic oscillator also has negative eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #261 on: 02/12/2021 19:10:27 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 18:57:26
It is the direction of movement of the particle with the sign + or - following x which is interesting.
That makes absolutely no sense.  A particles charge and direction have nothing to do with what we are discussing.  The graph in question has nothing to do with charge.
 
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 18:57:26
Now pair it with the value of + or - of x with the sign of the electric charge of the particle.
That has nothing to do with the graph we are discussing.
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 18:57:26
The antimatter and the matter is represented by this sign of the electric charge.
Again that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 18:57:26
For information in quantum mechanic the harmonic oscillator also has negative eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian.
Learn some basic physics, don't just string together terms you don't understand.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #262 on: 02/12/2021 19:18:38 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 15:00:49
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 14:44:49
Quote from: Kartazion on 30/11/2021 23:37:38
Click the following link to see what it gives:
It gives a bad animation of something we already know about.
But it doesn't say anything about antimatter or QM.
It is easy to get back an answer to you. Between Origin repeating what I say like a child, and you who say 'Something we already know about' for my animation. Once again and as usual. You will be able to provide a link of what you say. I give you a possibility to provide me with a diagram similar to mine in force as you claim.
You didn't say anything about antimatter in that animation.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #263 on: 02/12/2021 19:19:13 »
Quote from: Origin on 02/12/2021 19:10:27
That makes absolutely no sense.  A particles charge and direction have nothing to do with what we are discussing. 
The type of charge of a particle determines the direction in which the particles will be deflected in a magnetic field such that the negatively charged particles will go toward the positive end of the magnetic field while positively charged particles will go toward the negative end.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 19:18:38
You didn't say anything about antimatter in that animation.
So where's the problem?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #264 on: 02/12/2021 19:21:18 »
What you need to provide is a real explanation which says .
"Antimatter/ matter oscillation  and gravitational oscillation are linked because..."
Just fill in where I left the ... .
Unless you are providing an explanation like that, you are not doing science, you are just wasting time.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #265 on: 02/12/2021 19:22:12 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 19:19:13
So where's the problem?
The problem is that you can't say the video explains your ideas about antimatter when the video doesn't even mention antimatter.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #266 on: 02/12/2021 19:25:00 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 19:22:12
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 19:19:13
So where's the problem?
The problem is that you can't say the video explains your ideas about antimatter when the video doesn't even mention antimatter.
I mention the antiparticle in the video.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 19:21:18
"Antimatter/ matter oscillation  and gravitational oscillation are linked because...
Antimatter/ matter oscillation  and gravitational oscillation are linked because the sign changes way. Of course the matter and the antimatter are subject to gravity.
« Last Edit: 02/12/2021 19:31:03 by Kartazion »
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #267 on: 02/12/2021 19:42:32 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 19:25:00
Antimatter/ matter oscillation  and gravitational oscillation are linked because the sign changes way.
But that's a property of any oscillation; it goes forward, then it goes backward.
You will have to do much better than that.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 19:21:18
What you need to provide is a real explanation which says .
"Antimatter/ matter oscillation  and gravitational oscillation are linked because..."
Just fill in where I left the ... .
Unless you are providing an explanation like that, you are not doing science, you are just wasting time.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #268 on: 02/12/2021 19:52:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 19:42:32
But that's a property of any oscillation; it goes forward, then it goes backward.
You will have to do much better than that.
A copy paste will do.

Physicists have proved that a subatomic particle can switch into its antiparticle alter-ego and back again, in a new discovery revealed today. An extraordinarily precise measurement made by Oxford researchers using the LHCb experiment at CERN has provided the first evidence that charm mesons can change into their antiparticle and back again.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #269 on: 02/12/2021 20:54:21 »
I can only assume that you are being deliberately stupid.

The population of mice in the UK oscillates with a period of 1 year.

The sales of Christmas ornaments also varies with a period of 1 year.

But mice do not cause Christmas.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #270 on: 02/12/2021 20:56:25 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 19:52:13
A copy paste will do.
A copy paste would do, if it was relavant.

You keep saying two things.
Thing 1 Particles oscillate
Thing 2 a rock dropped through the centre of the earth would oscillate

But that is not the same as saying that thing 1 causes thing 2.
A bee's wings oscillate, but that isn't the explanation of antimatter.

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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #271 on: 02/12/2021 22:49:21 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 02/12/2021 19:19:13
The type of charge of a particle determines the direction in which the particles will be deflected in a magnetic field such that the negatively charged particles will go toward the positive end of the magnetic field while positively charged particles will go toward the negative end.
We weren't discussing charged particles or electric fields at all, we were discussing a harmonic motion due to gravity!  Why would you start talking about that?  Could you focus so we could move forward at least a little bit?!
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #272 on: 03/12/2021 01:18:00 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 20:54:21
I can only assume that you are being deliberately stupid.
I don't see how stupid this is. Or we don't have the same definition of stupid. I'm giving you a link on the particle oscillation between matter and antimatter. The only way out is that you have to publicly renounce the veracity of the published paper, to make me believe that I am wrong.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 20:54:21
The population of mice in the UK oscillates with a period of 1 year.

The sales of Christmas ornaments also varies with a period of 1 year.

But mice do not cause Christmas.
Here we can see that you studied.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/12/2021 20:56:25
A bee's wings oscillate, but that isn't the explanation of antimatter.
Do you reproach me for not explaining why antimatter exists?

Quote from: Origin on 02/12/2021 22:49:21
We weren't discussing charged particles or electric fields at all
Absurd. You are beside the point yourself. When we talk about of the electric charge of a particle, we talk about of antimatter.

Quote from: Origin on 02/12/2021 22:49:21
... we were discussing a harmonic motion due to gravity!
I do not see the relationship with the oscillator and gravity which is already very well studied.

Quote from: Origin on 02/12/2021 22:49:21
Could you focus so we could move forward at least a little bit?!
Can you you focus?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #273 on: 03/12/2021 02:41:00 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 01:18:00
Do you reproach me for not explaining why antimatter exists?
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 01:18:00
Absurd. You are beside the point yourself. When we talk about of the electric charge of a particle, we talk about of antimatter.
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 01:18:00
I do not see the relationship with the oscillator and gravity which is already very well studied.
Well this is hopeless.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #274 on: 03/12/2021 03:52:47 »
Quote from: Origin on 03/12/2021 02:41:00
Well this is hopeless.
You don't understand the link between gravity and oscillator?

You don't understand the connection between electric charge and antimatter?

You're done.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #275 on: 03/12/2021 06:49:45 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 03:52:47
Quote from: Origin on 03/12/2021 02:41:00
Well this is hopeless.
You don't understand the link between gravity and oscillator?

You don't understand the connection between electric charge and antimatter?

You're done.

You start with "2 + 3 = 5"

Then jump to "banana + happy = purple"

And people ask "how did you get to 'purple'?"

And you say "but but but all these experts say 2 + 3 = 5!"
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #276 on: 03/12/2021 07:39:44 »
Quote from: pzkpfw on 03/12/2021 06:49:45
You start with "2 + 3 = 5"

Then jump to "banana + happy = purple"

And people ask "how did you get to 'purple'?"

And you say "but but but all these experts say 2 + 3 = 5!"
Why make an analogy like this when real terms are used?

Origin and Bored refute the idea of ​​an oscillation between matter and antimatter as scientists have discovered and explained it through mesons. That's it.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #277 on: 03/12/2021 11:36:39 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 01:18:00
I don't see how stupid this is.
I think we should leave it there.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #278 on: 03/12/2021 13:00:33 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 07:39:44
Origin and Bored refute the idea of ​​an oscillation between matter and antimatter as scientists have discovered and explained it through mesons.
This is a prime example of why it is impossible to have a meaningful discussion you.
1.  The language barrier:  You mean reject, not refute.
2.  You lie:  Neither of us have denied that a charm meson can switch between matter and antimatter.
3.  You make wild assertions:  You think all matter acts like a charm meson.   
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #279 on: 03/12/2021 14:22:01 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/12/2021 11:36:39
Quote from: Kartazion on 03/12/2021 01:18:00
I don't see how stupid this is.
I think we should leave it there.
Yes I understand. It's because once again you are unable to say why.

Quote from: Origin on 03/12/2021 13:00:33
You lie:  Neither of us have denied that a charm meson can switch between matter and antimatter.
Why use the word 'switch' when they use the word 'oscillation'? Look at your next message: who is the liar in the story?
Quote from: Origin on 25/11/2021 14:00:08
Antimatter has nothing to do with simple harmonic motion.

Quote from: Origin on 03/12/2021 13:00:33
You make wild assertions:  You think all matter acts like a charm meson.   
And? It's not?
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