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If the Identical Twins are replaced with Two Individual Atoms.(Preferrably Hydrogen)Both closely video recorded.
One is kept on Earth. Other sent on the Space Trip.After whatever Earth years (x) the Other arrives back Younger.(x/2)Say if it was for a year...First Atom on Earth would have a year old long length video recorded.(x = 1yr)But will Second Atom only have (x/2 = 1yr/2 = 6months) of Video length recorded?
Coz for Second Atom, time never slowed down or things were never in slow motion.
Instead, from the Second Atom's perspective, it could be the First Atom on Earth whose time speed up.
If both videos are same length.
If shown to an individual who has no idea about the Experiment.(2) Would they be able to make out or tell a difference?
(3) Is it the Motion, or Rate of Change of Motion(Acceleration) that makes the real dilating difference?
(4) If there ever was such a way of closely monitoring & observing an Atom in different inertial states, would one really see any observable differences inside the inner workings of the Atom?
Why is Time Dilating then?
If the Earth Twin eats 100 mangoes in 1 Earth Year The Space Twin would have eaten 100 mangoes in it's 1 Space Year Journey.
If both video recordings are Compared, there would be 100 mangoes in each.
So like the Space Twin's video would be Shorter? 6months?
So then if that SpaceTwin video is played at 0.5x speed(half) then it would resemble Earth Twin's video length?
But then that would show SpaceTwin in Slow Motion Right?
ps - does anyone feel Utube songs are sloww n play them at 1.25x
If the Identical Twins are replaced with Two Individual Atoms. (Preferrably Hydrogen)
So eventually...Why is Time Dilating then?If the Earth Twin eats 100 mangoes in 1 Earth Year The Space Twin would have eaten 100 mangoes in it's 1 Space Year Journey.If both video recordings are Compared, there would be 100 mangoes in each.So like the Space Twin's video would be Shorter?6months?So then if that SpaceTwin video is played at 0.5x speed(half) then it would resemble Earth Twin's video length?But then that would show SpaceTwin in Slow Motion Right?Jeez!🥴Mind goes Mangoes understanding all this...wat do u intelligent folks eat?ps - does anyone feel Utube songs are sloww n play them at 1.25x Dis has nothin 2 do wit da pond n everythin 2 do wit a DiscoToad!🤭(Solly)
Quote from: Zer0 on 21/08/2021 05:17:33Why is Time Dilating then?Time isn't dilating. The worldline of path2 between a pair of events simply has a shorter temporal length than the worldline of path1, the less accelerated thing (Earth) begtween the same pair of events. Time itself is unaffected by this.🙄QuoteIf the Earth Twin eats 100 mangoes in 1 Earth Year The Space Twin would have eaten 100 mangoes in it's 1 Space Year Journey.Space twin's journey is only 6 months, no? At that pace, he eats 50 mangos.SpaceTwin's journey was 6 months for EarthTwin.But from STs perspective it was a whole year Right?QuoteIf both video recordings are Compared, there would be 100 mangoes in each.Not if each person eats a mango each 3.6 days.hmm.QuoteBut then that would show SpaceTwin in Slow Motion Right?Watching anybody's video at half speed shows them in slo-mo.🤭Quoteps - does anyone feel Utube songs are sloww n play them at 1.25x A few are, and need to be played fast, yes. It is done to prevent the videos from being removed as fast as it helps fool the bots that look for copyright violations. All such videos are illegal, else they'd have no reason to do that.
The AI specifically designed with main objective to Not let any Movement/Motion be detected by either Twins.
What if Identical Twins were in Automated AI equipped Identical Space Ships with no windows.
Twins observe their Clocks are out of sync.So the obvious conclusion is the Twin who's clock shows less time has passed is the One who Travelled, Right?
The Other, who's clock shows more time has passed was Stationary?
This is going to be a problem. We don't know of any anti-gravity or anti-acceleration technology. How is the AI going to prevent one of the twins experiencing an acceleration as they make the turn to come back home?
To notice a single micro second difference between synced atomic clocks would still need considerable amount of acceleration, Right?
What if they both moved in exact same direction n speed.
Or opposite direction but same speeds.
Could there be a way in which the AI could move them both in sync n stop them & then No Time Difference is noticeable?
While it's moving away from me at incredible speeds, clock seems little reddish in color & ticks slow.
While returning it's bluish & tickin faster.
Thank You All for being Supportive & Helpful.😊🙏Just to sum it up.I stay on earth with a clock.Other synced clock is sent in space.While it's moving away from me at incredible speeds, clock seems little reddish in color & ticks slow.While returning it's bluish & tickin faster.When i compare my earth clock with the spacey clock...They both would be in sync back again?Coz they both are now in same location frame of reference?
Or Not.Bcoz even thou Spacey clock travelled in positive direction(away) from me n then in negative direction(closer) to me...Directions were reversed, but speed/momentum was always forward.No Negative Speed Right!Hence both clocks even thou being back at the same location, would still be ticking in their own respective frames of reference.Or i still don't get it?🤔
& Also, if I'm video recording that Spacey clock for whole one year from earth.I'd have a rather interesting 1year long video of a clock that ticks slow pace 6months & then covers up for lost ticks by ticking at fast pace for 6months.Then if a selfie video recorder was sent along with the Spacey clock, Will it record 6month long video?Would the clock in the video tick at varying speeds? Like fast pace slow pace?Whatever may be, that 6month video should show a clock ticking for a whole one year.It has to.I got video evidence on earth video recorder Right???ps - Thanks All!👍
and fast for 1.8 month.Since the respective rates are 1/3 and 3, he would see it tick off 3.6 mo while ticking slow, and then another 3.6 mo while ticking fast,
Hi @Janus Your reply looks good. Just check these numbers:Quote from: Janus on 22/08/2021 15:38:32and fast for 1.8 month.Since the respective rates are 1/3 and 3, he would see it tick off 3.6 mo while ticking slow, and then another 3.6 mo while ticking fast,I think that 1.8 should be edited to 1.2, everything else seems OK 3 x 1.2 = 3.6 etc.
A clock the size of the Sun would tick slower in comparison to a clock the size of the Moon.
Coz not just direction & momentum, even gravity affects Time.
Synchronization is making sure they both Tick at the exact same moment.
But does that truly Sync them both?
say the Atoms that make up those Clocks, aren't they all out of sync with each other.
The Space-time continuum would have a different x,y,z,t for each & every atom.
What if 2 Synced clocks at rest with each other, start getting separated as the Space between them starts expanding.
A clock the size of the Sun would tick slower in comparison to a clock the size of the Moon.Right?
When 2 clocks are Synchronised...Synchronization is making sure they both Tick at the exact same moment.Right?But does that truly Sync them both?Like, those 2 clocks are at a different location in space-time to begin with.
Mmm..like say the Atoms that make up those Clocks, aren't they all out of sync with each other.
What if 2 Synced clocks at rest with each other, start getting separated as the Space between them starts expanding.Would they remain in Sync?
You're talking about gravitational time dilation. The size of an object (in metres by metres by metres) is less interesting than it's density
You're also assuming the clock is on the surface rather then being the whole mass of the object. If the clock was the entire moon then this has a varying gravitational field as you go under the surface and toward the centre, the gravitational field drops to 0 at the centre. So most of the inner mechanisms of a moon sized clock would actually be in a very low strength gravitational field.
(we use perfect clocks not cheap watches from the street-market etc.)
There is no way to synchronise clocks across an event horizon as far as I know.
Quote from: Zer0 on 23/08/2021 20:04:13What if 2 Synced clocks at rest with each other, start getting separated as the Space between them starts expanding.They were initially close together and that's why they seemed to be (almost) at rest with respect to each other. As the universe expands the separation between them increases and the relative velocity between them increases.