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Canola oil causes cancer?
« on: 16/04/2004 03:59:01 »
http://www.breathing.com/articles/canola-oil.htm

So many things you are told are good one day, you find out are not the next. I've been replacing vegetable oil with canola oil for probably the last 2 years. I am not wondering if I am causing myself harm. I think i'm going to go buy some vegetable oil and throw this crap out. If it is the oil of a seed known to cause cancer, what the hell am I doing eating it?!

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Re: Canola oil causes cancer?
« Reply #1 on: 16/04/2004 04:57:09 »
This report doesn't scare me too much, it dosesn't cite one scientific study.  It seems to be really biased (possibly put out be the peantut industry?)
But if you can afford it, I say olive oil is the way to go anyways....I love that stuff!

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Re: Canola oil causes cancer?
« Reply #2 on: 16/04/2004 13:47:44 »
Actually i wouldn't worry about it too much either considering the fact that it probably doesn't do a tremendous amount of damage...
Anyways if you notice just about anything can give you cancer if you abuse it so this isn't surprising

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Re: Canola oil causes cancer?
« Reply #3 on: 16/04/2004 22:06:23 »
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Originally posted by christianchick

Actually i wouldn't worry about it too much either considering the fact that it probably doesn't do a tremendous amount of damage...
Anyways if you notice just about anything can give you cancer if you abuse it so this isn't surprising




So true. I think i'd rather be safe than sorry, though... so i'm not going to buy canola oil anymore I don't think. I do use Olive oil, too... i'll just use it more now.

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Re: Canola oil causes cancer?
« Reply #4 on: 17/04/2004 09:15:35 »
You gotta look at the trade-offs.... High chance of heart disease, to a seemingly low chance of cancer.  (also how important is taste to you, because you could ideally just not use any oil)  its all a matter of priority, and this is likely different to everyone.  Another priority might be peace of mind...

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« Reply #5 on: 18/04/2004 19:14:47 »
Is there anything anywhere that is not related to it's own persoanl health scare ?....next it'll be good old H2O !! and then air will be bad for you,........I just think 'Life' itself should come with a government health warning !!!

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« Reply #6 on: 18/04/2004 22:56:29 »
Actually, the air in most cities is bad for you.  And even in the country it's not much better.  Water is pretty much the same.

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« Reply #7 on: 18/04/2004 23:01:26 »
RIGHTO...I'm holding my breath !!!..Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmm..(passes out...Finally gets to sleep)

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« Reply #8 on: 16/04/2004 04:57:09 »
This report doesn't scare me too much, it dosesn't cite one scientific study.  It seems to be really biased (possibly put out be the peantut industry?)
But if you can afford it, I say olive oil is the way to go anyways....I love that stuff!

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« Reply #9 on: 16/04/2004 13:47:44 »
Actually i wouldn't worry about it too much either considering the fact that it probably doesn't do a tremendous amount of damage...
Anyways if you notice just about anything can give you cancer if you abuse it so this isn't surprising

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« Reply #10 on: 16/04/2004 22:06:23 »
quote:
Originally posted by christianchick

Actually i wouldn't worry about it too much either considering the fact that it probably doesn't do a tremendous amount of damage...
Anyways if you notice just about anything can give you cancer if you abuse it so this isn't surprising




So true. I think i'd rather be safe than sorry, though... so i'm not going to buy canola oil anymore I don't think. I do use Olive oil, too... i'll just use it more now.

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« Reply #11 on: 17/04/2004 09:15:35 »
You gotta look at the trade-offs.... High chance of heart disease, to a seemingly low chance of cancer.  (also how important is taste to you, because you could ideally just not use any oil)  its all a matter of priority, and this is likely different to everyone.  Another priority might be peace of mind...

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« Reply #12 on: 18/04/2004 19:14:47 »
Is there anything anywhere that is not related to it's own persoanl health scare ?....next it'll be good old H2O !! and then air will be bad for you,........I just think 'Life' itself should come with a government health warning !!!

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« Reply #13 on: 18/04/2004 22:56:29 »
Actually, the air in most cities is bad for you.  And even in the country it's not much better.  Water is pretty much the same.

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« Reply #14 on: 18/04/2004 23:01:26 »
RIGHTO...I'm holding my breath !!!..Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmm..(passes out...Finally gets to sleep)

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« Reply #15 on: 20/04/2004 13:46:04 »
but i like oil...have you not seen the land o lakes butter commercial where they talk about how smooth the butter is with canola oitl?  yet i understand, it depends on how you wanna die i guess, cancer or being fat:)

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« Reply #16 on: 20/04/2004 22:34:13 »
Olive oil....just give me olive oil....and extra virgin olive oil, with some garlic and a smidgen of lemon, rubbed into a chunk of bread and grilled, with sweet tomatoes on top, drizzled with more olive oil...yummy !!!...err..did I mention that I like olive oil ?...........err...what is canola oil ?...is it a brand name in the states or is it an actual oil in itself ?

......Oil be awaiting your answers ? (sorry about that )

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« Reply #17 on: 20/04/2004 22:49:45 »
It's ok..I found it !..genetically altered rapeseed oil....hmmm...sounds delish !!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #18 on: 21/04/2004 04:04:13 »
I don't think it has to be genetically altered.  Canola is just another name for rapeseed oil.

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« Reply #19 on: 21/04/2004 08:02:52 »
oh neily-o-buddy you just made me huingry, that wasn't very nice!
do tehy really not have canola oil in the UK?  its like the most common oil you can buy over here!

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« Reply #20 on: 21/04/2004 10:55:04 »
Yep...we definitely have rapeseed oil Justy....as far as I know it's just not branded 'Canola'....well...I didn't recignise it anyway....yum yum !!

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« Reply #21 on: 22/04/2004 04:35:56 »
Good luck finding canola that's not GM.  Lots of bright yellow fields of canola up here.

Butter and olive oil taste good when blended.  Great on popcorn.

And I think what causes cancer is worrying about what causes cancer.[;)]
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« Reply #22 on: 22/04/2004 10:43:03 »
....yep those bright yellow fields are truly spectacular......and a big thumbs up about the popcorn !!...hmmmm !! *salivating*

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« Reply #23 on: 26/04/2004 07:44:30 »
oooo.... MIXING the butter and olive oil.... never trhought of that!!!....  I'm going home to try!!!

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« Reply #24 on: 27/04/2004 03:49:16 »
Butter and olive oil go great together.  I cook with those a lot, especially making risotto.

I always thought canola oil was made from corn...shows what I know.  They don't cite a single study of its toxicity so I wouldn't worry too much.  If an Ames test turned up positive, I still wouldn't worry.  There are hundreds of carcinogenic compounds in your morning coffee according to the Ames test, but that doesn't mean you're going to get cancer from it.  



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« Reply #25 on: 27/04/2004 11:44:18 »
Jay...thanks for that.......what about burned food ?..I've heard that that is tres carcinogenic too....and talking of coffee...I remember one of the thousands of food scares was perulated coffee that had been left brewing for ages and ages...especially in reastuarants eh ?

Get a tin of Tuna (dolphin friendly of course and in brine rather than oil).. drain it,whack it in the pan/pot/cooking utensil....stick a nice amount of Olive oil and butter in it, add  a few shakes of some soy sauce too, and worcestishire...a little black pepper....and perhaps a little crushed garlic clove too....(try without the garlic first)...heat gently, stir.....Oh My...tres delish with pasta, espesh if you grate some strong cheddar cheese on it too !!!!

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« Reply #26 on: 27/04/2004 19:02:09 »
Neil! You're making me hungry.  And I just had lunch!

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« Reply #27 on: 27/04/2004 23:48:25 »
wow, that sounds interesting... if only i liked tuna.....


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« Reply #28 on: 27/04/2004 23:56:41 »
Try it Justy !!..I'm primarily a meat eater.....but this is quite a delish recipe...all my own !!..well...of course whether you like it or not is purely a matter of subjectivity but believe me, it don't taste like tuna !!..(well...a little...) but the combo with the soy and worcesteshire sauce is an explosion of taste bud mania !!!

John...try it !!..hope you like it....remeber to drizzle that olive oil into the pasta too !!...I'm sure you're cat will like it !!..what is your cats name ?

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« Reply #29 on: 28/04/2004 03:32:59 »
I will try it sometime.  I doubt my cats would like it - they try to bury everything that is not cat food from a bag.  The cat in the picture is Goldie and we also have Kiddo, who looks a lot like his brother but with black striped fur instead of yellow.  We also have Misty who is a smoky grey tapering to white (outside cat in Arkansas).  And then we have Reggie, the ball python and Jake the black rat snake, and Spring the not-so-black rat snake (who is about to get paroled because I'm tired of buying mice for him).  And Anna the tan gerbil and Joe the black and white gerbil.  And a host of rotating temporary inhabitants of various jars and cages.  

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« Reply #30 on: 28/04/2004 10:33:29 »
Sounds like you're into heavy petting !![:D]

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« Reply #31 on: 28/04/2004 20:00:01 »
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Jay...thanks for that.......what about burned food ?..I've heard that that is tres carcinogenic too.

Can't be true, or I'd be covered in tumors, with my culinary skills.  I just turn everything on hi and walk out of the kitchen.  When it's done the smoke alarm lets me know.
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« Reply #32 on: 28/04/2004 20:05:46 »
LOL Donnah !!.....I definitely heard it somewhere and ever since then have stopped eating burnt toast !!..cos I love it !!..but, if it's a myth that no one has heard about then I'm definitely gonna be turning my toaster up high from now on !!....I'd love to come round to you for din dins *smile*

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« Reply #33 on: 29/04/2004 04:20:15 »
"The smoke alarm lets me know"....
hahahaha!  Good one Donnah!

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« Reply #34 on: 29/04/2004 04:34:29 »
sorry neil, but I still think I'm gonna stay away from your dish.... maybe with canned chicken instead of tuna????  
I'm just the opposite of donnah.  I put turn the stove on high and walk away.  My hunger pains tell me when its done (hopefully by thise point its at least not still frozen)
and burnt food does cause stomach cancer.  I can't remember exactly how, someting about the carbon in the black part... yeah thats scientific sounding!

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« Reply #35 on: 29/04/2004 10:28:15 »
Thanks Justy, at least it wasn't one of my midnight/morning hallucinations regarding the burnt food.....

Ok...don't try the fish dish....Hmmpth !!..some scientist !!!...what ever happenened to empirical study !!!...perhaps you could try it out on a fly and get their opinion ?...*giggle*

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« Reply #36 on: 30/04/2004 00:12:40 »
I think the fly would just eat any yeast that was growing on the tuna-dish.... probably tell me that it was good.

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