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When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?

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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #40 on: 05/02/2022 21:47:18 »
Hydrogen does not getting mixed with electrolyte solution to produce electricity?
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #41 on: 05/02/2022 22:08:27 »
How do I make a membrane at home?
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #42 on: 06/02/2022 09:50:00 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 05/02/2022 18:49:14
I think why did they separate fuel cell from hydrogen generator.
Same reason that we separate the car engine from the oil well.
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #43 on: 06/02/2022 11:02:39 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 05/02/2022 22:08:27
How do I make a membrane at home?
You don't.
Judging by your previous posts, you have no interest in actually learning anything and, unless you learn, three is no way you could do anything.
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #44 on: 06/02/2022 11:03:52 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 05/02/2022 18:49:14
I download the book. Electrolysis of water. Written in 196x.
Things have changed.
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #45 on: 06/02/2022 12:16:55 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/02/2022 11:02:39
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 05/02/2022 22:08:27
How do I make a membrane at home?
You don't.
Judging by your previous posts, you have no interest in actually learning anything and, unless you learn, three is no way you could do anything.

Cant find good source.
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #46 on: 06/02/2022 12:24:27 »
Need some help out here please.

There are several types. But the one i write about right now is widely used. www.fuelcellstore.com
They made of proton emitting membrane. There is original manufacturer that cells them for 30cmx30cm for ~ $250, they offer 3 different types. And there is other companies that do sell those for 3cmx3cm starts at $20. The material from original manufacturer is more expensive. That mean other companies make it themselves. If they made it, so possible to make it someone else. The material they use is called polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE),  it possible to buy those, they are white color, or they use custom made PTFE that is different from the one needs.  Than needs a perfluoro sulfonic acid (PFSA) treatment (cheaper to buy than synthesize). How do they soak acid in the material, creating a steam of this acid or soak it in the liquid? IS there a special way to do?

Some companies add very black carbon and platinum oxide or just platinum on the white cloth, and have some golden cloth over white. That's may be alkaline hydrogen fuel cells. Do they ionize platinum or cloth, or anything else?

The membranes on the trucks are black color, original color of material is polytetrafluoroethylene after acid treatment is green/gray colors range. IS there anything else need to do? like proton gun or neutron cannon or something.

« Last Edit: 06/02/2022 12:47:36 by vdblnkr34 »
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #47 on: 06/02/2022 15:43:20 »
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 06/02/2022 12:16:55
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/02/2022 11:02:39
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 05/02/2022 22:08:27
How do I make a membrane at home?
You don't.
Judging by your previous posts, you have no interest in actually learning anything and, unless you learn, three is no way you could do anything.

Cant find good source.
https://www.khanacademy.org/
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #48 on: 21/04/2022 12:23:36 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/02/2022 15:43:20
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 06/02/2022 12:16:55
Quote from: Bored chemist on 06/02/2022 11:02:39
Quote from: vdblnkr34 on 05/02/2022 22:08:27
How do I make a membrane at home?
You don't.
Judging by your previous posts, you have no interest in actually learning anything and, unless you learn, three is no way you could do anything.

Cant find good source.
https://www.khanacademy.org/

I found it on youtube some guy make membranes at home using a cloth, pvc glue and than chemically treating it. But chemicals that he uses are toxic.
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #49 on: 21/04/2022 15:13:02 »
All materials are toxic.
You still have not really explained what you are trying to do.
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Re: When is the best point to add oxygen to a propane and hydrogen mix?
« Reply #50 on: 21/04/2022 15:54:47 »
nothing in this case
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