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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #40 on: 01/02/2022 21:30:47 »
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 19:41:29
On moon velocity of light is little faster than that on earth, this small change does not cause antennae failure.
What you said was
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Velocity of light is inversely proportional to gravity, i
The gravity on the moon is about 6 times less than on Earth, so the antennae would be the wrong size by a factor of six.

They could not possibly work.
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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #41 on: 01/02/2022 22:11:47 »
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:53:31
Energy = Mass . Length . Length / Time . Time
These are the correct units
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:53:31
Velocity = Mass . Length / Time
Incorrect, these are the units for momentum.
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:53:31
Gravity = Length / Time . Time
Incorrect, these are the units for acceleration.
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Velocity of object ... V = Mass . Gravity . Time [ Velocity is directly proportional to gravity ]
Incorrect, these units are for momentum again (assuming 'gravity' is acceleration).

Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:53:31
Velocity of light ... V .V = Mass . Mass . Length . Length / Time . Time = Mass . Energy
Incorrect, the units of the speed of light is L/t.
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:53:31
Energy = Mass . Length . Gravity
Correct, if 'gravity' is really acceleration.
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:53:31
Mass = Energy / Length . Gravity
Velocity . Velocity = Energy . Energy / Length . Gravity
Velocity . Velocity / Energy . Energy = 1 / Length . Gravity
This is getting a little silly...
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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #42 on: 01/02/2022 22:22:46 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 01/02/2022 20:25:45
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:56:38
Concluding that velocity of light is constant is a misconception.
According to what experimental evidence?
Well, if velocity of light was a constant, then if you could see me, then I couldn't see you since it would involve the light going a different direction, which is a different velocity. That's a pretty trivial experiment.

Of course, we can assume jan19 is speaking of speed of light and not velocity of light, but he didn't actually say that.

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Velocity of light is not constant. Velocity of light is relative.
According to what experimental evidence?
So in Minkowski spacetime (no gravity), the direction that a particular photon is traveling is frame dependent. It might be going North in one frame and the same photon going East relative to another.

Also, I think once again jan19 is speaking of the coordinate speed of light (as opposed to the speed of light which is constant), which varies with gravitational potential, not with the local gravitational acceleration rate.
So for instance, the coordinate speed of light on Saturn is higher than it is on Earth despite Saturn massing more and the gravitational pull there being 8% higher. Similarly, the coordinate speed of light on Mercury is the lowest of all the 8 planets despite the gravity there being the weakest on the list.
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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #43 on: 02/02/2022 01:34:27 »
Quote from: Halc on 01/02/2022 22:22:46
Quote from: Kryptid on 01/02/2022 20:25:45
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:56:38
Concluding that velocity of light is constant is a misconception.
According to what experimental evidence?
Well, if velocity of light was a constant, then if you could see me, then I couldn't see you since it would involve the light going a different direction, which is a different velocity. That's a pretty trivial experiment.

Of course, we can assume jan19 is speaking of speed of light and not velocity of light, but he didn't actually say that.

Quote
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 01/02/2022 16:56:38
Velocity of light is not constant. Velocity of light is relative.
According to what experimental evidence?
So in Minkowski spacetime (no gravity), the direction that a particular photon is traveling is frame dependent. It might be going North in one frame and the same photon going East relative to another.

Also, I think once again jan19 is speaking of the coordinate speed of light (as opposed to the speed of light which is constant), which varies with gravitational potential, not with the local gravitational acceleration rate.
So for instance, the coordinate speed of light on Saturn is higher than it is on Earth despite Saturn massing more and the gravitational pull there being 8% higher. Similarly, the coordinate speed of light on Mercury is the lowest of all the 8 planets despite the gravity there being the weakest on the list.

Light can not escape a black hole? Space is emptiness that can be occupied. Space is absolute.
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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #44 on: 02/02/2022 11:33:44 »
Quote from: jan19th1980 on 02/02/2022 01:34:27

Light can not escape a black hole? Space is emptiness that can be occupied. Space is absolute.
None of that makes any difference. If you measure the speed of light you always get the same answer- even if you are inside the event horizon of a black hole.
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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #45 on: 02/02/2022 15:38:07 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/02/2022 11:33:44
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Light can not escape a black hole? Space is emptiness that can be occupied. Space is absolute.
None of that makes any difference. If you measure the speed of light you always get the same answer- even if you are inside the event horizon of a black hole.

This is true since the speed of light is the ground state of the universe. The analogy between any and all inertial references and the unique speed of light reference common to all, is the speed of light is like sea-level, while all the possible inertial references are like all the various elevations of the earth that will all see this common feature called c-level.

Their potential energy is in proportion to their potential with c-level. The black hole makes a core reference close to what we could see at the speed of light and SR. So it has little potential relative to c-level. According to both SR and GR inertial references in motion and/or due to local mass density are at different degrees away from the singular reference at c-level; the water on the mountains, hills or plains all flow to the sea. The black hole is a low lying plain relative to c-level. 

In Special Relativity, there three equations, one each for mass, distance and time. We know mass becomes discontinuous at the speed of light since mass cannot travel at the speed of light. This would take infinite energy. The same analysis is also true for distance and time since these parameters use the exact same function, which leads to the same outcome. It would take infinite energy for space-time to sustain at the speed of light. Instead space-time will break down and becomes discontinuous. It changes things in ways not recognizable from space-time as we know it.

Space; distance, and time as we know it do not retain their traditional expressions at c-level. They lose their connection to the land of clocks and meter sticks, just as mass does not retain its inertial nature at c-level. Instead time and space will act independently of each other. One can move in time without the constraint of space or move in space without the constraint of time. These states have been historically called omniscience and omnipresence, respectively.

These extrapolated conclusions were inferred from SR. If we plug the speed of light into the equations for time and distance the math says the universe will appear to contract to a point-instant. As a point universe, our reference would conceptually allows us to be everywhere in the universe, since our reference would be a point that defines all. Since time also appears as an instant, we also become timeless, since the entire time lapse or any sub time lapse of the inertial universe, also occur in the same singular instant.

It is only a question of magnifying the point; with a microscope, to achieve omnipresence at any level of distance. A microscope does not change the properties of our original viewing reference. We are still be omnipresent according to the math. While a video playback using slow motion does not all alter our original time reference, relative to our instant view of the universe. Thus we get omnipresence and omniscience, relative to the full spectrum of states within the inertial universe we can see. This is not your Grandfather's perception of space-time, but theoretically can occur at c-level.

With time and space; distance, having these unique properties at c-level, the inertial references of the universe and their potentials; analogous to the mountain tops and the fruited plains, relatives to c-level, are actually relative to the dissociated nature of space and time, and not to space-time, which does not exist at c-level. The true potential is connected to separated time and space, and not connected space-time as we know it. For example, we get statistical results that appear not explainable by space-time moving in a connected way.

All the forces of nature, which lower potential, create accelerations which has the units of d/t/t. It is one part distance and two parts time. There is a second time vector beyond space-time; d-t1 plus t2.  Singular time vectors are common to c-level. These extra time vectors have the properties of omniscience. This second time vector of acceleration make the forces of nature the same in all references, at all times and places in the universe. The laws of physics the same in all references; past, present and future, as well as here and there, requires both an omnipresent and omniscience type affect. C-level provides this.

Once you can think from the POV of C-level it is much easier, since that reference has a way to compact things; generalist, instead of infinite inertial specialist for dissociated reality. 

Years back I developed what I called the MDT theory. It was a way to define inertial realty using only three variables; mass, distance and time potential. It was presented as group of diagrams that looked like old fashion circular slide rules, with concentric dials. One could dial in the answer to the most complicated questions, all based on using the C-reference as the ground state. It appeared in a vision which I drew in photoshop. However, I was not able to fully explain the needed physics at that time. The diagrams stood alone.

The logic behind its simplicity was connected to Special Relativity. If we traveled at velocity V, mass, distance and time will change. This is more pronounced as we approach the speed of light. As space-time and mass change due to relativity, the laws of physics will all adjust, so they can remain the same in all references. What this told me was these three variables; relativistic mass, relativistic distance and relativistic time, is all we need to adjust all the laws of physics so the final reference will see the exact same results. Theoretically, this meant, all you needed was these three variables; mass, distance and time potential, to these implied all the rest since they could make all the needed adjustments to all the laws of physics. I was too far ahead of my time in 2005.

I was trying to upload one of the diagrams, but my I-MAC will not give me a good local address to upload the image file. The pic file placeholder on this site will not take copy and paste from my harddrive. Some other time.

In the c-level model, our universe appeared from nothing; c-level, like a volcano that appears in the ocean and breaks the surface of c-level. It appears from nothing, in the sense of not originally being part of space-time; above the surface. Energy, like photons, have the units of distance and time or  wavelength and frequency. However, as long as distance and time are separated, photons have no continuous sustained basis; zero point energy. Therefore as the volcano appears it will appear as though there is originally nothing in space-time, until the volcano breaks the surface of c-level and aspects of separated distance and time begin to overlap so space-time and energy can appear. 

The volcano grows and then explodes; expands, seeking to return to c-level. This expansion boils the surface of the sea; photons, making islands; mass and matter. The goal of our universe is to return to c-level, since tour inertial universe and space-time appears from the free energy loss due to the lowering of entropy needed to create space-time. We go from the infinite possibilities of c-level, to a finite set of limitations; laws of physics within space-time. The second law is immediately in affect, due to the infinite entropy at c-level. The causes the universe to increase entropy and complexity as it moves back toward the maxima of entropy at c-level.

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Re: Fundamental Theory of Existence.
« Reply #46 on: 02/02/2022 16:30:05 »
Quote from: puppypower on 02/02/2022 15:38:07
This is true since the speed of light is the ground state of the universe.
Why do you keep repeating this cobblers?
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