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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #80 on: 06/10/2022 05:17:48 »
It remains to be determined and on the scale of life what imminent is. It can take six months or two years. Simply and by conclusion I think that a return to the past is not possible, and the cards have been redistributed as the world order redefines. Russia is ultimately not the exception to this rebellion, because many nations and by force of events 'unite it'.

Please excuse my English.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #81 on: 06/10/2022 05:54:03 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 06/10/2022 05:17:48
. Russia is ultimately not the exception to this rebellion, because many nations and by force of events 'unite it'.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #82 on: 06/10/2022 06:14:51 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/10/2022 05:54:03
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You have the example of North Korea as well as Iran.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #83 on: 06/10/2022 23:31:26 »
I'm following RT on satellite TV.
Russia's State Sponsored Broadcaster.

Saw a Breaking News segment, unable to share an official YouTube link as RT seems to Banned on YouTube.

Still managed to find an excerpt...here it is...


Can the OP or anyone else Please Verify the authenticity of the content?

P.S. - To me it seems like a fake propaganda news purported to showcase Mr Zelenskyy as a mad man who has lost his mental balance.

Edit - Yup! Fake News Alert!

He mentioned Preventive Action/Preventive Measures...NOT preemptive strike.
Duh!
Translator Error.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/zelensky-calls-for-preemptive-strike-against-russia-in-speech-to-lowy-institute/news-story/80b4cd30b1ac06298d995ce96950d744

P.P.S - Mods if you wish to take down the fake propaganda YouTube video, then Please do so.
Or perhaps let it remain as a stark example of how the East is trying to manipulate the West with it's rhetoric.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #84 on: 07/10/2022 05:46:32 »
Western intelligence services are alarmed by the imminence of a possible nuclear test either by North Korea or Russia.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/north-korea-biden-administration-nuclear-test/index.html

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-orders-nuclear-military-train-to-ukraine-front-line-tswzv2v50
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #85 on: 08/10/2022 16:31:07 »
Mr Musk got a pretty bad rap just trying to propose a Peace Deal.
Now Others wishing to Try would be feeling highly Discouraged to do so.

News :-

" Ukraine's inventive social media activists are gleefully pumping out memes to celebrate the occasion.

And Ukraine's second largest bank, Monobank, says it has already issued a new debit card design featuring the collapsed bridge.

Oleksii Danilov, Secretary of Ukraine's National Security Council, wasn't the only one noting that the attack came just a day after Vladimir Putin's 70th birthday, tweeting a video of the damaged bridge next to Marilyn Monroe's famous performance of Happy Birthday, Mr President from 1962. "

The sense of excitement is palpable.

Source - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63183409

P.S. - Now Birthday Boy shall Retaliate for sure!
(Escalated)

Edit - RT claims the Bridge is back up & running.
(Partially Opened)
That was impressively Quick.
Coz i saw a whole section was down with my own eyes.

P.P.S. - Why does it seem like i am the Only one in here frequenting today?
Is ManU playing Arsenal or something else is up?
& Anybody heard off KillNet as yet?
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #86 on: 08/10/2022 23:20:45 »
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. After a hundred centuries of military technological development, demolishing a bridge still cuts off the enemy's baggage train.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #87 on: 09/10/2022 00:21:26 »
" Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. "

The US nuked Japan to prevent heavy casualties, on both sides i suppose, coz more Japs would have lost their lives fiercely fighting for the empirical empire.
So two nukes and a complete unconditional surrender was sort of a win win for both sides.
(Complete Solidarity towards the Survivors)

" What If " Russia uses a similar logic & decides to use Tactical Nuclear Weapons in hopes of ending the war sooner, or if they use an EMP Bomb n take out electronic devices only, with less to no civilian casualties...

Would then NATO jump into an all out Direct conflict with Russia?
Or
Would the US then openly use nukes against Russia or it's Allies?

P.S. - maybe this is why We do Not find any Intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe, seems the Great Filter is ahead of Us, maybe We are all staring at it from different angles/viewpoints.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #88 on: 09/10/2022 01:28:04 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 09/10/2022 00:21:26
" What If " Russia uses a similar logic & decides to use Tactical Nuclear Weapons in hopes of ending the war sooner, or if they use an EMP Bomb n take out electronic devices only, with less to no civilian casualties...

Would then NATO jump into an all out Direct conflict with Russia?
Or
Would the US then openly use nukes against Russia or it's Allies?
The answer is here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/07/biden-warns-world-would-face-armageddon-if-putin-uses-a-tactical-nuclear-weapon-in-ukraine

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/07/biden-armageddon-warning-russia-nuclear-weapons-ukraine
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #89 on: 09/10/2022 02:21:24 »
As we can see one day this is said and the next day they change their minds. At this diplomatic level, the interpretation of indecisive speeches underlines a certain uncertainty of how to react and is ultimately a form of panic.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #90 on: 09/10/2022 12:20:17 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 09/10/2022 00:21:26


The US nuked Japan to prevent heavy casualties,
Weird that the carpet bombing of cities didn't achieve a surrender. The nuclear bomb probably took more effort to produce too.


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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #91 on: 09/10/2022 15:35:01 »
WWII was a war of attrition. Firebombing cities involved considerable losses of low-level precision bombers and did little to persuade the Nazis to surrender until the Red Army reached Berlin. Tokyo had been  pretty thoroughly destroyed in March 1945 with considerably greater loss of life and property than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined, but the raid involved over 300 aircraft and could in principle have been thwarted by land-based fighters and long-range radar.

What the nuclear attack demonstrated was the ability to destroy any target with a single aircraft and at very low risk to the attacker. Even the Japanese military recognised the old adage that it is no disgrace to surrender to obviously superior forces.

The Ukrainian question is what would Putin achieve with a nuclear attack? Russian tactics so far have been to do just enough damage to ensure that the civilian population leaves an area, then occupy and loot it with infantry. Vaporising a large cuivilian area would make anything worth occupying uninhabitable, and Ukrainian forces do not seem to be concentrated in large camps and settlements.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #92 on: 09/10/2022 17:59:07 »
People have been fantasizing about nuclear war since 1949. I think we humans deserve some credit for avoiding it. Even STALIN avoided nuclear war. Russians brag about their dick size even more than Americans and Brits. (There's actually a Russian that claims to have a 15-foot johnson, but we can't see it because it's invisible). Putin wants to show the world how powerful and huge it is without showing it.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #93 on: 09/10/2022 19:38:58 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/10/2022 15:35:01
What the nuclear attack demonstrated was the ability to destroy any target with a single aircraft and at very low risk to the attacker. Even the Japanese military recognised the old adage that it is no disgrace to surrender to obviously superior forces.
Low risk was due to no fuel and barely any aircraft on the part of the Japanese, not the nuclear weapon. Superiority of allied forces was there from Midway onwards, China with India NZ Australia and any other British empire forces clearly outweighing the Japanese on land and the allied navies on the sea Japan's goose was cooked.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #94 on: 10/10/2022 00:04:38 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 09/10/2022 15:35:01
The Ukrainian question is what would Putin achieve with a nuclear attack?
Bring down this Satanist totalitarian regime. Ukraine is the key until it reaches the whole West.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #95 on: 10/10/2022 00:27:55 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/10/2022 19:38:58
Superiority of allied forces was there from Midway onwards,
So why did it take 3 years for one of the world's most sophisticated military and intelligence organisations, that had been  planning and building for decades, to realise they couldn't win?
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #96 on: 10/10/2022 06:56:17 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 10/10/2022 00:27:55
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/10/2022 19:38:58
Superiority of allied forces was there from Midway onwards,
So why did it take 3 years for one of the world's most sophisticated military and intelligence organisations, that had been  planning and building for decades, to realise they couldn't win?
Japan had a strange idea that they could engage in war in the way they did and then sue for peace, the Japanese even held the belief that the Japanese homeland would not be occupied.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #97 on: 11/10/2022 07:05:55 »
In latest news, Russia retaliates with missile strikes targetting Civilian installations.

Quote from: Kartazion on 09/10/2022 02:21:24
As we can see one day this is said and the next day they change their minds. At this diplomatic level, the interpretation of indecisive speeches underlines a certain uncertainty of how to react and is ultimately a form of panic.

Perhaps some would consider this OP as a bit of an Exaggeration.

But whenever a Nuclear Power is involved in a conflict Anywhere around the Globe, it should be a matter of International Concern.

& in here We are referring to a Country that supposedly has the most amounts & largest capacities of Nukes.
& NATO too!

Hence a matter of Grave Concern.

P.S. - When a Commie keeps sayin Use of Nukes is Real & No Bluff, & when the POTUS refers to Armageddon, i won't consider those who Panic to be Fools.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #98 on: 11/10/2022 08:37:42 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 10/10/2022 00:27:55
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 09/10/2022 19:38:58
Superiority of allied forces was there from Midway onwards,
So why did it take 3 years for one of the world's most sophisticated military and intelligence organisations, that had been  planning and building for decades, to realise they couldn't win?
Were their plans based on the idea that their Emperor was a God?
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #99 on: 13/10/2022 01:33:18 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 11/10/2022 07:05:55
P.S. - When a Commie keeps sayin Use of Nukes is Real & No Bluff, & when the POTUS refers to Armageddon, i won't consider those who Panic to be Fools.
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When you are president of a great nation you owe it to yourself to be intrepid and know how to keep your cool.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 08:37:42
Were their plans based on the idea that their Emperor was a God?
Isn't that the case when you have the national motto In God We Trust?
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