[ron123456 (OP)]

Hello
It would be interesting....thx

[Origin]

Hello
It would be interesting....thx

Could you expound on this a bit?  What is wrong with the equations we currently have?

[ron123456 (OP)]

I don't know about existing equations.....I just think that photon tunnels, if they don't already exist, could easily made to exist and could be the source of propulsion that is required to travel quickly...They would concentrate the photons and even expand on more tunnels that would repel a superconductive 3D grid of depth of crystal nature.......wow.....fast......thx again for your response

[Bored chemist]

I don't know about existing equations.....I just think that photon tunnels, if they don't already exist, could easily made to exist and could be the source of propulsion that is required to travel quickly...They would concentrate the photons and even expand on more tunnels that would repel a superconductive 3D grid of depth of crystal nature.......wow.....fast......thx again for your response

So, you believe in magic.

[ron123456 (OP)]

....not as much magic as a quantum jump with an electron sharing two different levels with different probability is going to generate a EM field of sine wave nature in a vacuum....That is magic!

[Bored chemist]

....not as much magic as a quantum jump with an electron sharing two different levels with different probability is going to generate a EM field of sine wave nature in a vacuum....That is magic!

It's what works.

[ron123456 (OP)]

......I just can't comprehend the overall consensus of an instantaneous jump between energy levels in a vacuum poducing a dipole antenna of a varying length dependent on the radius of the energy levels resulting in the pulses? Why go to quantum mechanics when standard classical antenna theory provides the answer (of course the antenna length would be varying instead of fixed)? A gradual transition works with the electron spiralling from one energy level to the lower one via a route around the nucleus producing a varying length dipole antenna from one radius to the lower level radius (cut off pulse)....Thx
 

[Bored chemist]

I just can't comprehend

[ron123456 (OP)]

I just quickly want to state that the exact shape of a photon can be obtained by classical antenna theory as opposed to guessing with quantum mechanics.....Should we continue slowly?...I apologize with my previous dexcription and I should go more slowly....thx....

[Bored chemist]

I just quickly want to state that the exact shape of a photon can be obtained by classical antenna theory

Why would you want to say that?

[ron123456 (OP)]

Well, apparently Quantum experiments determined that shape and size affect absorption, finally.....They're using quantum mechanics with a quasi-monochromatic source wave train.....sounds good???.....
My problem is that shape / size ( is very important ) ....How does the energy in a magnetic field line interact with a photon's energy shape......In addition how is the magnetic energy in a field line transferred along the field line to interact with an energetic photon?....shape of the photon has to come into the formula some way?....thx again

[Bored chemist]

Why do you imagine that a photon has a shape?

[ron123456 (OP)]

https://phys.org/news/2016-12-interaction-atom-photon-quantum-devices.html
Well this is finally revealed.....Where are we?

[ron123456 (OP)]

https://physicsworld.com/a/how-to-shape-photons-using-a-trapped-atom/
thx again

[Bored chemist]

https://physicsworld.com/a/how-to-shape-photons-using-a-trapped-atom/
thx again

Those "shapes" are not shapes.
"...absorb a photon with one temporal shape and then emit a photon with a different temporal shape..."

Plenty of newspapers seek to "shape public opinion", but public opinion has no shape.

[Origin]

Was there something in particular you wanted to discuss?  You started off with a question about field strength determination.  Next you talked about photon tunnels and superconductive 3D grid of depth of crystal nature, whatever that's supposed to mean.  Then you asked about electron orbitals.  Then you jumped to the shape of photons.
I would recommend that you pick a specific topic to discuss instead jumping all over the place.

[ron123456 (OP)]

O.K, bottom-line ......."You can only engineer what you can understand"......There should never have been an instantaneous quantum jump when classical antenna theory would have done just fine, perhaps or more so, even better.......Maybe new ideas of propulsion are good or magic?....

[Origin]

There should never have been an instantaneous quantum jump when classical antenna theory would have done just fine, perhaps or more so, even better

The transition from one quantum state to another is not instantaneous.  Quantum theory successfully explains the behavior of electrons in an atom.  Classical theory is incomplete and does not adequately explain the behavior of electrons in an atom.

[ron123456 (OP)]

That's the problem....quantum theory is always EXPLAINING after the fact and to promote the statement " quantum mechanics is used because it works" ....Again, the wave machine that is used typically to explain transverse wave propagation (steel rods connected by a thin string) is good for a MEDIUM but not for a VACUUM.....EM waves generated in a VACUUM require an oscillation of the electron to radiate the EM wave, at least initially until other Maxwell's Equations kick in....An electron falling from one level to a lower level in one direction IN A VACUUM will have to oscillate and not simply fall in one direction. This can happen if the electron falls to the lower level by circling the nucleus many times (2D) thus forming a changing dipole.....2D can easily be expanded to 3D and probability orbitals used instead of shells.....Thx again for your patience

[Origin]

That's the problem....quantum theory is always EXPLAINING after the fact and to promote the statement " quantum mechanics is used because it works"

I don't know what you mean by this.  Quantum mechanics was developed because the classical physics did not work.  Electrons should spiral into the nucleus for instance and the photoelectric effect could not be understood.

.Again, the wave machine that is used typically to explain transverse wave propagation (steel rods connected by a thin string) is good for a MEDIUM but not for a VACUUM.

A wave machine is simply a device to help demonstrate how waves interact, it is not meant to exactly explain how EM radiations propagates.  A wave machine is irrelevant as to whether quantum mechanics is accurate or not.

An electron falling from one level to a lower level in one direction IN A VACUUM will have to oscillate and not simply fall in one direction.

It doesn't really make a lot of sense to talk about a vacuum inside an atom.  The electron is in a higher energy state when it is in a higher level, when it drops to the lower level it is now at a lower energy state and the energy change is reflected in the photon that is emitted by the electron.

This can happen if the electron falls to the lower level by circling the nucleus many times (2D) thus forming a changing dipole....

The electron does not circle the nucleus like the moon orbiting the earth.

2D can easily be expanded to 3D and probability orbitals used instead of shells

Not sure what you mean here.