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Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« on: 22/03/2022 09:54:10 »
    DOES LIFE TRAVEL ONLY IN ITS SIMPLEST FORM IN OUR UNIVERSE?
    BY SUHAIL JALBOUT

We are multi-cellular organisms. If we go back in time, we will find out that this is only a phase of our development. We were all formed from a single-cell micro-organism immediately after the fertilization of our mother’s egg-cell. However, if we were to have a child, we have to go back to the simplest form possible meaning another single egg-cell micro-organism.

 What about our universe?

One of the oldest cosmological theories that describes the origin of our universe, written in the Hindu Text Rigveda between 1500-1200 BCE, is the Brahmanda or “Cosmic Egg” universe. The “Cosmic Egg” expanded from a single concentrated point, called a Bindu (B), to contain everything that exists in our universe.

Similarly, the most prevailing cosmological theory at the present time, after 3,500 years from the “Cosmic Egg”, is the Big Bang (BB) theory. This theory suggests that our universe was inside a Big Bang Black Hole torn apart into its smallest subatomic components and was squeezed into a singularity. Our universe was formed when the singularity expanded or exploded or evaporated. Consequently, in order to form another universe, we have to go back in time to the simplest form possible meaning another singularity or to a single concentrated point.

What I mean by going back in time is going back to the origin. Clocks move always forward and our time started immediately after the Big Bang. This means time tell us only when the BB happened. Therefore time moves into the future while backward time moves into the past. If one wishes to travel a distance of 10 km between points (A) and (B) at a speed of 10 km/hr, we know that it is going to take him one hour to cover the distance in the future. Once he starts from point (A), time will move forward but the travelled time moves backwards. In other words, we can postulate the following:

BACKWARD TIME IS EQUAL AND OPPOSITE TO FORWARD TIME

This means in order to produce similar forms to what already exists, we have to go back in time to its simplest form. From the forgoing, life has a forward and a backward time. It existed on our planet as a single-cell about 3.8 billion years ago and then it evolved into complex organisms. So, in order to have similar life forms in our universe, we have to go back in time to its simplest form. This probably implies that life can travel in our universe only in its simplest possible form.
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Re: Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« Reply #1 on: 22/03/2022 16:43:08 »
Quote from: suhail jalbout on 22/03/2022 09:54:10
Once he starts from point (A), time will move forward but the travelled time moves backwards.
I don't know what you mean by that.  Time doesn't move backwards.
Quote from: suhail jalbout on 22/03/2022 09:54:10
This means in order to produce similar forms to what already exists, we have to go back in time to its simplest form.
But you can't go back in time.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
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Re: Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« Reply #2 on: 23/03/2022 09:35:42 »
@ ORIGIN

Clocks always move forwards to register what is taking place in the future. However, immediately afterwards this time becomes in the past. In other words future time is the same as the past time. We experience the future time physically while the past time mentally. So, in order to explain the origin of existing forms, we have to go backwards in time mentally. We went backwards in time 13.8 billion years to determine the age of our universe.
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Re: Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« Reply #3 on: 23/03/2022 12:10:48 »
Quote from: suhail jalbout on 23/03/2022 09:35:42
In other words future time is the same as the past time.
They are not the same, that is why there are two different words for these phenomena.  They both involve time but are different.  Walking forwards is different than walking backwards.
Quote from: suhail jalbout on 23/03/2022 09:35:42
We experience the future time physically while the past time mentally.
We only experience the present.
Quote from: suhail jalbout on 23/03/2022 09:35:42
So, in order to explain the origin of existing forms, we have to go backwards in time mentally.
That is trivially obvious.  If that is the point you were trying to make then I certainly agree.
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Re: Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« Reply #4 on: 21/04/2022 13:52:51 »
@ Origin

Thank you for your comments which made me revise the OP as below. My apology to you and the viewers.

Humans are multi-cellular organisms. If we go back in time, we will find out that this is only a phase of our development. We were all formed from a single-cell micro-organism immediately after the fertilization of our mother’s egg-cell. However, for us to have a child, we will have to go back to the simplest form possible, meaning another single egg-cell micro-organism.

 How does this relate to our universe?

One of the oldest cosmological theories written in the Hindu Text Rigveda between 1500-1200 BCE that describes the origin of our universe is the Brahmanda or “Cosmic Egg” universe. The “Cosmic Egg” expanded from a single concentrated point, called a Bindu (B), to contain everything that exists in our universe.

Similarly, the most prevailing cosmological theory at the present time, after 3,500 years from the “Cosmic Egg”, is the Big Bang (BB) theory. This theory suggests that our universe was inside a Big Bang Black Hole torn apart into its smallest subatomic components and was squeezed into a singularity. Our universe was formed when the singularity expanded or exploded or evaporated. Consequently, to form another universe, we must go back in time to the simplest form possible, meaning another singularity, or to a single concentrated point.

What I mean by going back in time is going back to the origin. Clocks always move forward and our time started immediately after the Big Bang. As a result, man divided time into years, days, hours, minutes and seconds to organize his life on our planet and to sequence and compare events. It seems a second is a long time and can be sub-divided into its most minimum possible value by writing:

Minimum Possible Time = 1 / 10^infinity seconds or

MPT = 0.000…000…000…01 seconds

The MPT is so minute that it is way below the human electrochemical brain activity. This implies that the present time does not exist while the future time and the past time happen at almost the same fraction of a second. Our universe started from zero time and advanced 13.8 billion years in the future meaning 13.8 billion years in the past.

 Therefore, time moves into the future followed immediately by the past time. In other words, we can postulate the following from a reference point:

PAST TIME IS EQUAL TO FORWARD TIME

Consequently, to produce similar forms to what already exists, we must go back in time to its simplest form. From the forgoing, life has a forward and a past time. It existed on our planet as a single-cell about 3.8 billion years ago and then it evolved into complex organisms. So, to have similar life forms in our universe, we must go back in time to its simplest form. This probably implies that life can travel in our universe only in its simplest possible form.

If we assume that the above analysis is correct, then single-cells must have existed in frozen states on comets, “wet” asteroids, “wet” meteorites, chunks of ice, and water-ice rings for millions of years in the universe. When they fall onto planets that can support life (in their own solar system or on earth-like exoplanets due to the explosion of planetary stars) they multiply and develop into multi-organisms. The new life will be bound within the boundaries of the planet’s solar system and cannot travel into our universe (reminds us of the event horizon of black holes). This means we can only communicate with other intelligent life in the universe by means of electromagnetic waves and/or modulated laser beams but we cannot meet physically.
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Re: Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« Reply #5 on: 21/04/2022 19:27:37 »
Hi.

1.  This is the "new theories" section, so anything goes.   You are free to state your theory.

2.   Since this is a science forum, I'm assuming you want some feedback about the accuracy of some of the scientific content.  The writing style and/or relevance for other areas of study like philosophy and theology are completely different things and are not commented on at all.

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Quote from: suhail jalbout on 21/04/2022 13:52:51
We were all formed from a single-cell micro-organism immediately after the fertilization of our mother’s egg-cell
      The idea is OK.   However, there may be some disagreement about the specific details:   A fertilized egg is not capable of surviving outside of the womb, so it doesn't fit all the criteria Biologists may use to declare it to be a single-celled organism.   It is just a stage of development for a multi-cellular organism.

Quote from: suhail jalbout on 21/04/2022 13:52:51
...(the Big Bang theory) suggests that our universe was inside a Big Bang Black Hole..
   That is not globally accepted or a completely accurate description of the big bang theory or of "the most prevailing theory of cosmology" as you stated.   There may have been a genuine singularity but that is not certain.    The Big Bang theory doesn't really claim to describe the situation at such a singularity even if there was one.  There is a reference time, let's call it  t=0, which is obtained just by extrapolating the model back to the point where there would be a mathematical singularity.  However, the model isn't assumed to continue to hold at that time.   Most models apply for early times (approx. 10 - 40 seconds*) but not any earlier than that, so at the earliest time of the model, the universe was very hot and very dense but not infinitely dense.   The most modern and commonly accepted cosmological model is often referred to as the ΛCDM model of cosmology.  In that theory the universe is never required to be a single point (it may have been but it is not required).  Just to be clear on that - the big bang did not happen at one point in space, it happened everywhere throughout space and that space may have had infinite extent even then, this is quite different from the early versions of the big bang theory where it was often said that the universe did begin as a single point.  Some Popular Science authors suggest the name "Big bang" should be replaced with something like "the everywhere stretch" just to make it clear that there wasn't a single point which looks like the origin of any sort of conventional explosion.

    There are also some theories which do directly suggest that our universe may very well be entirely contained within a black hole.   These are not usually called the "big bang theory" but have other names like "Black Hole Cosmology"  ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_cosmology ).   You are probably blending several different theories together when you say  "...This theory suggests that our universe was inside a Big Bang Black Hole.....".

Quote from: suhail jalbout on 21/04/2022 13:52:51
Minimum Possible Time = 1 / 10^infinity seconds....
   The mathematicians (including me) aren't going to like that.  There is no clear definition of raising something to the power of infinity.   Even if you are just using shorthand to express a more formal Limit, that limit would be precisely 0  not just close to 0.

Quote from: Origin on 23/03/2022 12:10:48
If we assume that the above analysis is correct, then single-cells must have existed in frozen states on comets, “wet” asteroids, “wet” meteorites, chunks of ice, and water-ice rings for millions of years in the universe. When they fall onto planets that can support life (in their own solar system or on earth-like exoplanets due to the explosion of planetary stars) they multiply and develop into multi-organisms.
    That does sound a lot like the idea of panspermia   ( https://www.newscientist.com/definition/panspermia/ ).

Best Wishes.

LATE EDITING:   *   Some sources suggest setting this time later,   10 - 32 seconds is roughly the end of the planck epoch and a suitable limit we might place on the models.   The detail is not too important - it's a very early time, almost t=0 but just not exactly t=0.
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Re: Does life travel only in its simplest form in our universe?
« Reply #6 on: 22/04/2022 22:39:10 »
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Does life travel only in its simplest form
It has been suggested that rather than send adult astronauts across the void (needing food, water & air), that it might be better to send a simpler form: fertilized embryos, in liquid nitrogen storage?

Of course, that requires a number of technologies that we don't have today, like artificial wombs and robot universities.
- Perhaps a simpler form would be robot explorers, like the Perseverance Mars probe.
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