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cancelling is a new dictator style idea.
Only hate speech should be censored, not cancelled, cancelling is a new dictator style idea. Free speech is the rule, the right. Science should be civilly debated.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 06/06/2022 13:52:02Only hate speech should be censored, not cancelled, cancelling is a new dictator style idea. Free speech is the rule, the right. Science should be civilly debated. That in itself is hate speech, leveled against those you disagree with. Please censor yourself.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 16/06/2022 16:00:03Quote from: Europan Ocean on 06/06/2022 13:52:02Only hate speech should be censored, not cancelled, cancelling is a new dictator style idea. Free speech is the rule, the right. Science should be civilly debated. That in itself is hate speech, leveled against those you disagree with. Please censor yourself. My hate speech? I don't understand. Are you saying you are communist?
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Rather than tear down their statue, do we put a an extra plaque on their plinth, saying that "In 2022, we find good evidence that this person did X, Y & Z. This was made illegal by the ABC bill of 2015..."?
I think that indiscriminate canceling is a bad thing.There are people who we would consider enlightened by the standards of their day, but who also did some things that we might disagree with today. Do we cancel the whole person, forgetting that they actually contributed to progress (as we measure it today)?This often comes out in the context of those who owned slaves, at a time when most rich people owned slaves. Perhaps we should look at how they treated their slaves, rather than the fact that they owned slaves.- Or in those who wanted to abolish slavery, but who had, at some point in their life had owned slaves.What about people in the arts, who we now discover did things which we don't approve?Rather than tear down their statue, do we put a an extra plaque on their plinth, saying that "In 2022, we find good evidence that this person did X, Y & Z. This was made illegal by the ABC bill of 2015..."?
Sounds like more hate speech.
OK, by that argument, should we put up a statue of Hitler (or some other villain- take your pick) and say we erected a statue of this guy just to announce how bad he was"?
a statue says that the person is seen as an example
I don't want to hurt communists, although adversaries like North Korean communists, I hope they topple, like Russia did.
Is there an example on your mind of one such?
North Korean communists
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 17/06/2022 16:30:02Sounds like more hate speech. I in my mind I hate communism, the mandates, the loss of free thought and enterprise, religion and the right treatment of human and animal life. I hate abortion and infanticide, I don't like the idea of people ending their own lives, at least they have a say in it.I don't want to hurt communists, although adversaries like North Korean communists, I hope they topple, like Russia did.